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Old 10-28-2005, 09:21 PM
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Maybe someone can post pictures of someone who has CLEARED their RIGHT HIP correctly on the backswing and downswing 7-15.
Then someone who has done it incorrectly.

I have heard different interpretations of what this "clear the right hip" means.
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Old 10-28-2005, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lagster
Maybe someone can post pictures of someone who has CLEARED their RIGHT HIP correctly on the backswing and downswing 7-15.
Then someone who has done it incorrectly.

I have heard different interpretations of what this "clear the right hip" means.
I would love to have this answered as well. Good question.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:07 AM
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I have heard different interpretations of what this "clear the right hip" means.
Clearing the right hip is merely allowing the hands to establish a lag relationship to the planeline. Thats it. Nothing more, nothing less. Basically, the hips lead the downswing and provide a dual function - particulary for swingers....starting the gyroscope and shifting so the hands can move downwards toward the ball.

You'll know if you roundhouse. See 2-N-O, page 49, top section.

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Old 10-29-2005, 08:57 AM
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I'll never forget how Ted spoke of it in Canton; the right hip can be a roadblock or a highway. A clear right hip is a highway, as Phillygolf said, to allow the hands to travel along the swing plane in a straight line.
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Old 10-29-2005, 10:10 AM
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Clearing the right hip is merely allowing the hands to establish a lag relationship to the planeline. Thats it. Nothing more, nothing less. Basically, the hips lead the downswing and provide a dual function - particulary for swingers....starting the gyroscope and shifting so the hands can move downwards toward the ball.

You'll know if you roundhouse. See 2-N-O, page 49, top section.

Patrick
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Yes, but the pictures and interpretations could still be different.

One... is that the right hip "clears"(looks like turns to me) slightly before START UP.9-1-4/9-2-4
Two... at START DOWN 9-1-7 9-1-7/9-2-7/9-3-7 the RIGHT HIP is still BACK at this point, is another interpretation. You can see this on one of the newer Tomasello videos.
Three... the right hip is CLEARING the way for the hands, right forearm, right elbow on the DOWN STROKE. 9-2-8 page 126 This picture looks a little exaggerated to me.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lagster
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Yes, but the pictures and interpretations could still be different.

One... is that the right hip "clears"(looks like turns to me) slightly before START UP.9-1-4/9-2-4
Two... at START DOWN 9-1-7 9-1-7/9-2-7/9-3-7 the RIGHT HIP is still BACK at this point, is another interpretation. You can see this on one of the newer Tomasello videos.
Three... the right hip is CLEARING the way for the hands, right forearm, right elbow on the DOWN STROKE. 9-2-8 page 126 This picture looks a little exaggerated to me.
I have struggled with clearing the right hip but the benefit of adding right arm keeps me working.

Hitting related posts left me with an impression that clearing the hip is in sequence with and following "Fix" but before Start Up. I get the impression from 12-3-0 of a more coordinated move. Additionally, what I see in the YodasLuke and Yoda "driver competition" clip is indication of a right hip move at Start Up by YodasLuke. Is any correct or more correct?

12-3-0 includes "clear right hip" in item 13 of The Address and as item 24 of The Top. Item 13 is written "Forward Press-Clear Right Hip" suggesting a coordinated movement with the hands or, as the hands push forward the right hip responds with a rearward rotation. Peter Croker offers a feel drill in his book.

Wanting a Start Up with the hands at Impact and a cleared right hip, I Forward Press to a flat left wrist as the hip is cleared. However, to obtain the benefit of Fix, there is a centering after Fix and before the press and clear, which seems to eliminate any unintentional body/head movement.

I read item 24 as verification that the hip is correctly positioned and ready for "slide." Correct for me has the right hip further from the plane line than the left. For OGrady it would appear that the left hip at Top is also closer to the target than at address, which is more pronounced for his left-hand stroke.

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Sorry guys....

Amatuer night.

Think about it. Hmmm.....

Clear...the right hip...on the backswing or downswing...


Hmmm....

Your questions are solid...on track! Just I have to run...in the meantime...

Please...

Dont be more concerned with 'clearing the right hip' then you are with getting them hands onplane!!!!!!

Patrick
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Old 10-29-2005, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by phillygolf
Clearing the right hip is merely allowing the hands to establish a lag relationship to the planeline. Thats it. Nothing more, nothing less. Basically, the hips lead the downswing and provide a dual function - particulary for swingers....starting the gyroscope and shifting so the hands can move downwards toward the ball.

You'll know if you roundhouse. See 2-N-O, page 49, top section.

Patrick
For those of you going to page 49....it's page 39 instead of 49 for 2-N-O.

DG
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