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Old 01-02-2006, 06:46 PM
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Posterchild for Hitters - Stuart Appleby
Here is a sequence from the 1999 US Open at Pinehurst....

RFT...
Top Assembly Point...
Turned Shoulder Plane...
Angled Hinge Action...
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Old 01-02-2006, 07:35 PM
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Very Nice post!!
I really enjoyed this one. So am I correct in assuming that a hitter should still have wristcock and forearm rotation but it's just not as much as a swinger?

It seems to me that most pics I've seen of pure hitters like this also may indicate that hitters keep the right foot down after impact a slight bit longer?

Sorry for all the questions but I'm so confused about TGM right now.
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Old 01-03-2006, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob2197
Very Nice post!!
I really enjoyed this one. So am I correct in assuming that a hitter should still have wristcock and forearm rotation but it's just not as much as a swinger?

It seems to me that most pics I've seen of pure hitters like this also may indicate that hitters keep the right foot down after impact a slight bit longer?

Sorry for all the questions but I'm so confused about TGM right now.

First Question:
Should a hitter have wristcock?
No, a hitter can have wrist cock, but that could destroy some of the radial motion of hitting. It is better to think of the right wrist as level throughout the backswing and into impact.

Should a hitter have right forearm rotation?
Yes, the difference from a swinger is that a hitter gradually rotates from address all the way to the top. The right forearm than gradualy squares up from top to impact.

You could say Appleby looks so good because his rate of rotation is so good as a hitter the forearm gradually rotates all the way through the stroke.

I have learned the above from my time spent with Yodasluke and Annikan Skywalker. As for your second question I will leave that for them to answer.

Hopefully this helps clear the fog.

Sorting through the circuit player's handbook.

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Old 01-03-2006, 12:42 PM
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Accumulator
So a hitter should strive for only a double barrel accumlator 1st & 3rd?

I thought it was triple barrel including wristcock per 12-1-0
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Old 01-03-2006, 01:24 PM
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Thankyou Rob!!!
Thanks Rob,

You helped me learn something today!!

I had to call Yodasluke to clear myself up on your reply.

A hitter does have left wrist cock, however the focus is not on cocking the left wrist. The focus is on maintaining the right forearm flying wedge to Top. The left wrist cock occurs at Top because of the load of the shaft and the folding of the right elbow.

So....The hitter that needs a swing thought, may want to think of the stroke in more of a double barrel manner. Focusing on the right arm flying wedge and proper use of the right elbow, folding and unfolding.

Sorting through the Instructor's Textbook.

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Oh yea and Thanks Ted!! You are the MAN!
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Old 01-03-2006, 02:38 PM
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The Case Of The Missing Pressure Point
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So a hitter should strive for only a double barrel accumlator 1st & 3rd?

I thought it was triple barrel including wristcock per 12-1-0
In the Hitter's Basic Stroke Pattern (12-1-0), three Accumulators -- #1 (Right Elbow), #2 (Left Wrist) and #3 (Left Hand) -- are driven through only two Pressure Points -- #1 (the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb) and #3 (the meaty part of the right forefinger where it contacts the back of the Clubshaft).

During the Start Down, Hitters use the Pivot in conjunction with the Hands resisting the change of direction at the Top to Drive Load (10-19-A) the entire Primary Lever Assembly (the Left Arm and Club) against Pressure Points #1 and #3. Since the Right Elbow is directly behind and supporting this Assembly (6-B-3-0-1), it is likewise Loaded (6-H-0-E #5). This Loaded Lag Pressure with the full support of the Right Forearm and Elbow is then Delivered Down Plane with absolutely no change whatever in the Pressure.

During the Downstroke and Release, the Right Arm drives the Left Arm through Pressure Point #1 (10-11-0-1). Simultaneously, the Right Arm also drives the Clubshaft through Pressure Point #3 (6-C-2-C). Thus, the active drive of the Uncocking Right Elbow (7-1 and 6-B-3-A) against the #3 Pressure Point (10-11-0-3) both Uncocks the Left Wrist (7-3) and Rolls the Left Hand (6-B-3-0). Because Pressure Point #2 (the last three fingers of the Left Hand) is not used to actuate the Left Wrist, its function is reduced to merely holding the Club.

Swingers, however, utilize three Pressure Points when using a Three Accumulator Stroke. Power Accumulator #4 (the Left Arm) is Loaded by the Pivot against Pressure Point #4 (where the Left Arm contacts the side), and this Drag Loading Action (10-19-C) Loads the Secondary Lever Assembly (the Clubshaft only) via the Left Wrist (6-H-0-F #5) through Pressure Point #2. However, this does not result in an active drive of the Clubshaft because Centrifugal Force alone powers the Club (10-11-0). This 'Passive Clubhead Lag' (10-11-0-2) -- the Clubshaft being Pulled lengthwise directly toward the Plane Line (6-C-2-A) -- sets up the Centrifugal chain reaction (6-M-1) that ultimately pulls the Clubhead into its In Line condition (6-C-0-4) of Full Extension (2-P).

In a Maximum Power Pivot Stroke, the Hitter also will use the Pivot to load Pressure Point #4 (as opposed to a Three Accumulator Stroke wherein the Right Shoulder simply provides motion in the Start Down and then acts as the backstop for the driving Right Arm in Release). In which case, there will be a Four Accumulator Stroke. However, the Swinger is best advised to use a Three Accumulator maximum because any attempt to use the Right Arm -- other than to Trace with the Clubhead Lag Pressure and for Extensor Action and its support (through Pressure Point #1) of the Left Arm's Pull of the Clubshaft (not a Powering of the Clubshaft itself) -- will conflict with the Stroke's Centrifugal drive and actually result in a Power Loss, not a Power Gain.
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Originally Posted by Yoda
During the Start Down, Hitters use the Pivot in conjunction with the Hands resisting the change of direction at the Top to Drive Load (10-19-A) the entire Primary Lever Assembly (the Left Arm and Club) against Pressure Points #1 and #3. Since the Right Elbow is directly behind and supporting this Assembly (6-B-3-0-1), it is likewise Loaded (6-H-0-E #5). This Loaded Lag Pressure with the full support of the Right Forearm and Elbow is then Delivered Down Plane with absolutely no change whatever in the Pressure.
Collards,

The Hands resisting the change of direction at the Top . . . is this "leaving the hands at the Top?" And the Pivot thus supplies the initial Load to #1, #3 and the Right Elbow?

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12-2 more Powerful than 12-1
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In a Maximum Power Pivot Stroke, the Hitter also will use the Pivot to load Pressure Point #4 (as opposed to a Three Accumulator Stroke wherein the Right Shoulder simply provides motion in the Start Down and then acts as the backstop for the driving Right Arm in Release). In which case, there will be a Four Accumulator Stroke. However, the Swinger is best advised to use a Three Accumulator maximum because any attempt to use the Right Arm -- other than to Trace with the Clubhead Lag Pressure and for Extensor Action and its support (through Pressure Point #1) of the Left Arm's Pull of the Clubshaft (not a Powering of the Clubshaft itself) -- will conflict with the Stroke's Centrifugal drive and actually result in a Power Loss, not a Power Gain.

Yoda,

Hence my conclusion that a Maximum Power Stroke (2-M-2) for the Basic Swinging Pattern (12-2) will hit the Ball further than the Basic Hitting Pattern (12-1), everything else being equal.

Do you see the logic of my conclusion, and do you think it's well founded?
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Here is a sequence from the 1999 US Open at Pinehurst....

RFT...
Top Assembly Point...
Turned Shoulder Plane...
Angled Hinge Action...
etc...

THESE FREAKIN' ALIGNMENTS ARE STRONG LIKE OTIS DRUNK'S BREATH AFTER UNLOCKIN' CELL IN THE MORNING!!!
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Here is a sequence from the 1999 US Open at Pinehurst....

RFT...
Top Assembly Point...
Turned Shoulder Plane...
Angled Hinge Action...
etc...

Hey Mr Annikan,

Thanks for all these pictures....keep em coming.
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