Tour swings

[streak]

John - Thanks for your contributions.

1) Which Tour players do you know have a fair understanding of TGM and try to work directly with TGM concepts in their swings (as opposed to indirectly through instructors who may have adapted a bit of TGM here and there)?

2) Which Tour swings do you admire / try to learn something from, whether the player follows TGM or not, and what is it about their swings you like?

[john riegger]

there are quite a few guys being taught tgm.most all the oklahoma state boys have had some tgm teachings.alot of the aussies are being taught tgm indirectly.i don't know the gentlemans name that teaches lonard,pampling and a few others,but his teachings include alot of tgm.
personally i love to watch elk's motion.the best swing i have seen on tour is my roomate from college (kelly gibson).i hope he gets back to playing again.

[hbear55]

I think the Australian instructor that works with Lonard and Pampling is named Gary Edwin.

[hue]

I think the Australian instructor that works with Lonard and Pampling is named Gary Edwin.

I have noticed that a lot of the Australian players seem to have a strong TGM influence in their motions. Is this down to Tom Tomasello?

[john riegger]

talked to robert allenby about tgm and any influence he had.he told me he had never heard of it.that him and appleby both used the same instructor until recently.appleby warmed up next to me on the range one day.man is he swinging well.allenby did tell me he had heard of PAUL SMITH which is on here alot.Paul is an aussie.i met him in phoneix.keep spreading the word downunder paul.just thought you all would like to hear this bit of information i learned firsthand

[Thom]

talked to robert allenby about tgm and any influence he had.he told me he had never heard of it.that him and appleby both used the same instructor until recently.appleby warmed up next to me on the range one day.man is he swinging well.allenby did tell me he had heard of PAUL SMITH which is on here alot.Paul is an aussie.i met him in phoneix.keep spreading the word downunder paul.just thought you all would like to hear this bit of information i learned firsthand

John - I don't know if you've read the thread "posterchild for a hitter" in the hitters room. It's discussed whether Appleby is a hitter or swinger. He's primarily using angled hinging, but is he drive loading? What do you think?

[golfguru]

Hi guys. This last few weeks have been a jet lag blurr to Phx and back. FRB one weekend followed by the Johnnie Walker over my back fence. What a treat.

John it was classic seeing the dowels in the staff bag on practice day Pity we did not quite get the catch up to chat but work is work and there was plenty of that going on.

Down under, the original TGMers were indeed Tom and Gregg doing the trips to teach. Paul Hart has been a major major contributor for the many years since and I beleive Steve Khabit recently won the Victorian Teacher of the year award, our last official A.I. (The rest of us are "formally known as A.Is" Now there is another story of disbelief of how TGM is run.) Ben Doyle and Gregg have been coming down over the last year to see Steves students in Sydney and Melbourne which is good to see.

TGM has been in the quack category of course down under through nothing more than the usual ingorance. Yours truely with iseekgolf.com has put it back in the mainstream public eye over the last 18 months. That has meant wearing a tin helmet and flack jacket anywhere I go but those who make the trip West go home seeing the light - either when here or at worst they can see the light at the end of the tunnel in terms of precision of execution (go Burner!!!).

G Edwin does not have nor had any TGM influence in his own development. His is a mix of hitting and swinging (dependiing upon which player you look at out of his stable) if you look carefully at the motions. Having said that I am sure that what HE means his players to do is not quite what comes out of them. Chuck Cook and he did a PGA summit workshop a couple of years back and GE liked what Chuck said though as he saw TGM as I think the quote was "at least there is science to back it up."

Many Aussie players are taught to keep the clubface pointing at the ball in the backswing. Its why many get pegged as hitters. But nearly all lay the face on the plane further up.

Gosh that was the longest post I had stuck up in ages. Hope it was worth reading this far down



PS if anyone has a spare flack jacket please post it this way

[Yoda]

Hi guys. This last few weeks have been a jet lag blurr to Phx and back.

Good to hear from you, Paul. We miss you and know you're busy. But, when you can, keep those posts comin'!

[Toolish]

Good to hear from you, Paul. We miss you and know you're busy. But, when you can, keep those posts comin'!

Yoda...believe me, Paul has more than enough on his plate keeping the Aussie forum under control!

And he is doing a nice recruiting job for TGM down under