Let us discuss the possible reasons for getting the CLUB OFF-PLANE on the BACKSWING and DOWNSWING, and the best ways to STAY ON-PLANE. I'll start with a couple, then others chime in.
Off-Plane
1. Right Forearm off-plane at Address. I realize that many(most) do set up with the forearm off-plane, but this is one possibility.
2. Changing the BENT RIGHT WRIST angle. This should not change at all throughout the Stroke, except briefly in the front part, between Follow-Through and Finish, when the arms MIRROR the BACKSTROKE conditions.
Hands moving away from the body as first move of takeaway, rather than back, up, and in. Usually moves clubhead well inside, but 'over' plane because of above plane hand motion. Clubhead does not stay 'outside' the hands until hip high.
In short, not tracing a straight plane line.
Most likely the result of improper grip or setup position, and I would agree that the right forearm is one of the big ones.
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Eac Selected Plane angle has different range of motions, styles of motion, sequence of motion, & speed of motion..different wrist alignments etc....This could get deep!!!!
Instead of opening up a can of worms let's select a particular plane angle and discuss what movements can take it off plane versus on plane...
I gotta hand it to you lagster
..you are consistent at one thing....
asking questions that have endless possiblitlites...especially when you already know the answers in advance:
Unless Fixed in advance or established in advance...Hand Paths and Wrist Alignments are major players here as well as Zone #2 and Zone One spacing and sequencing....
Let us discuss the possible reasons for getting the CLUB OFF-PLANE on the BACKSWING and DOWNSWING, and the best ways to STAY ON-PLANE. I'll start with a couple, then others chime in.
Off-Plane
1. Right Forearm off-plane at Address. I realize that many(most) do set up with the forearm off-plane, but this is one possibility.
2. Changing the BENT RIGHT WRIST angle. This should not change at all throughout the Stroke, except briefly in the front part, between Follow-Through and Finish, when the arms MIRROR the BACKSTROKE conditions.
"getting the CLUB OFF-PLANE": More dominant action of the hands/arms than shoulder turn. Why? Because the range of movement (degree of freedom) for the former is a lot more than the latter.
"the best ways to STAY ON-PLANE": Spin around an axis.
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OK... let's get more specific. Mr. Hoch, for example, in the pictures posted by Annikan, has the butt of his club pointing well inside the baseline. This would be Off-plane according to many. He, however, is an excellent ball striker. Is this an example of a correct variation, for someone on his very STEEP Backswing Plane?
OK... let's get more specific. Mr. Hoch, for example, in the pictures posted by Annikan, has the butt of his club pointing well inside the baseline. This would be Off-plane according to many. He, however, is an excellent ball striker. Is this an example of a correct variation, for someone on his very STEEP Backswing Plane?
Not off plane in my view - just a very steep plane - and a very steep path\plane of his hands motion (the path of the pressure points in 3 dimensinonal space).
You have to watch what the hands/pressure points do. The plane is defined by the hands (pressure points) and the sweet spot - not the shaft - and unless you have zeroed out #3 - far better to just watch the path of the hands for 'the' plane.
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"Support the On Plane Swinging Force in Balance"
"we have no friends, we have no enemies, we have only teachers"
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- and unless you have zeroed out #3 - far better to just watch the path of the hands for 'the' plane.
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