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Old 03-16-2008, 09:27 AM
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With the season approaching, I have been doing some preparation. Is it correct to think of using the pivot to carry a bent right arm to impact? If so, when does the right arm "blast off" the chest and how does one avoid over acceleration when using that violent sounding swing thought?
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Old 03-16-2008, 10:00 AM
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With the season approaching, I have been doing some preparation. Is it correct to think of using the pivot to carry a bent right arm to impact? If so, when does the right arm "blast off" the chest and how does one avoid over acceleration when using that violent sounding swing thought?
I would think more of carrying the right forearm flying wedge into impact -the right arm cannot be straight at impact if you have set up correctly.
The right arm does not "blast off"-unless you are a leftie.
The left arm is thrown off the chest by the pivot.
The right arm is trying to straighten and the right wrist is trying to stay bent.
Overacceleration-make sure you are PULLING all the way down -if you lose pressure in pp#3 you are overaccelerating.
This is from a swingers perspective
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:13 AM
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I would think more of carrying the right forearm flying wedge into impact -the right arm cannot be straight at impact if you have set up correctly.
The right arm does not "blast off"-unless you are a leftie.
The left arm is thrown off the chest by the pivot.
The right arm is trying to straighten and the right wrist is trying to stay bent.
Overacceleration-make sure you are PULLING all the way down -if you lose pressure in pp#3 you are overaccelerating.
This is from a swingers perspective
neil,r/forearm flying wedge,at what point would you remove wedge ,I thought that it starts to straighten pretty much as it starts down,so long as you made initial pivot move back to square ,this would ensure that you dont run out of r/arm through impact.thanks
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:24 AM
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neil,r/forearm flying wedge,at what point would you remove wedge ,I thought that it starts to straighten pretty much as it starts down,so long as you made initial pivot move back to square ,this would ensure that you dont run out of r/arm through impact.thanks
Don't "remove " the wedges!
The right wrist stays bent ,left stays flat throughout the whole motion.
The bent right elbow does not straighten until follow through (the both arms straight position )-approx 45* to the ground shaft position.
If the right arm straightens at impact or before -you have run out of right arm-and lag pressure.
Don't think of the wedges as not being there just because the 90* angle isn't retained between the forearms-just think of the RFFW and LFFW oppsing one another -the bent right wrist is always at 90* to the plane of the left wristcock.
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:41 PM
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Don't "remove " the wedges!
The right wrist stays bent ,left stays flat throughout the whole motion.
The bent right elbow does not straighten until follow through (the both arms straight position )-approx 45* to the ground shaft position.
If the right arm straightens at impact or before -you have run out of right arm-and lag pressure.
Don't think of the wedges as not being there just because the 90* angle isn't retained between the forearms-just think of the RFFW and LFFW oppsing one another -the bent right wrist is always at 90* to the plane of the left wristcock.
Big sorry neil,I wrongly referred to R/elbow as being a wedge(forgive my no-brainer),
What I meant to say was,as the R/shoulder drives R/elbow down into impact zone,at what point does the R/elbow start to straighten,or does it start to unbend as soon as the downstroke begins.I hope you follow me.Thanks again
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:21 AM
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Big sorry neil,I wrongly referred to R/elbow as being a wedge(forgive my no-brainer),
What I meant to say was,as the R/shoulder drives R/elbow down into impact zone,at what point does the R/elbow start to straighten,or does it start to unbend as soon as the downstroke begins.I hope you follow me.Thanks again
If anything,it bends more on the initial part of the downstroke.
The right arm can only begin to straighten when the left arm is thrown off the chest.
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:40 PM
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With the season approaching, I have been doing some preparation. Is it correct to think of using the pivot to carry a bent right arm to impact? If so, when does the right arm "blast off" the chest and how does one avoid over acceleration when using that violent sounding swing thought?
Pivot transports the power package which include the arms, hands amd club so the bent right wrist would be carried or transported by the pivot. It is the throw out of a swinger that has the left arm blast off the chest via the pivot and the right shoulder thrust (the intial move of the start down). A hitter drives his right arm against a 'backboard' of the right shoulder. Over accerleration is the loss of clubhead lag and therefore bad rhythm and spent accumulators.
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:00 AM
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Thanks 6bmike,I,m personally at a loss as to when the r/arm actually begins to straighten out,I mean,does the r/shoulder carry the B/arm to a point in d/swing and then begin to straighten out or,does it begin to straighten out as soon as d/swing starts,with the shoulder adding the extra push(or backboard,I like that).Thanks
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Thanks 6bmike,I,m personally at a loss as to when the r/arm actually begins to straighten out,I mean,does the r/shoulder carry the B/arm to a point in d/swing and then begin to straighten out or,does it begin to straighten out as soon as d/swing starts,with the shoulder adding the extra push(or backboard,I like that).Thanks
No- the right arm does NOT straighten at the start of the downswing- thats going off plane - OTT. Even Hitters have a pivot start down that moves the right arm on plane before it straightens through the ball to low point. Checkout Lynn's Hiting v Swinging video- it was one of the first. It is in the video clips- Lynn Blake- 5th one down on the left.
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Originally Posted by Ed Miller View Post
With the season approaching, I have been doing some preparation. Is it correct to think of using the pivot to carry a bent right arm to impact? If so, when does the right arm "blast off" the chest and how does one avoid over acceleration when using that violent sounding swing thought?
In "hitting", my rotating pivot keeps pushing the straightening right arm, which keeps pushing the unbending right wrist, which keeps pushing the grip against the clubhead, to try to keep Bending The Shaft (or "sustain the clubhead lag") through impact.
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YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
Bend the shaft.
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