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Old 01-25-2006, 01:08 AM
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Swinger - Straight Line Delivery?
Can you guys clear something up for a newbie?

I'm a swinger - at the top of the backstroke. Starting down i'm imagining my right hand on a straight line delivery path to the back of the ball (or should that be aiming point?) anyway i'm thinking straight line with right hand

The question is that as a swinger is this a bad thing to think of/imagine as it may encourage hitting?

Out of interest when concentrating on this at the range i seem to be making really good contact - especially my woods which i top every now and then.

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Old 01-25-2006, 07:45 AM
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I'm no pro Bergsy,but a straight line delivery path is absolutly acceptable for swingers.But you must be precise and aim the lag pressure at the aiming point or use the impact fix to determine the impact alignment.Either way you pulling down and out at the inside aft quadrant of the ball.
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Old 01-25-2006, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by neil
I'm no pro Bergsy,but a straight line delivery path is absolutly acceptable for swingers.But you must be precise and aim the lag pressure at the aiming point or use the impact fix to determine the impact alignment.Either way you pulling down and out at the inside aft quadrant of the ball.
Thanks Neil, i actually set up at impact fix even though i'm a swinger. works the best for me. Good to hear that i'm not doing anything too dramatically wrong

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Old 01-25-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bergsey
Can you guys clear something up for a newbie?

I'm a swinger - at the top of the backstroke. Starting down i'm imagining my right hand on a straight line delivery path to the back of the ball (or should that be aiming point?) anyway i'm thinking straight line with right hand

The question is that as a swinger is this a bad thing to think of/imagine as it may encourage hitting?

Out of interest when concentrating on this at the range i seem to be making really good contact - especially my woods which i top every now and then.

Thanks guys
Hi Bergsey,

A swinger can use a straight line delivery path per 10-23-A if he is using a Top Power Package Assembly Point per 10-21-A where the hands are shoulder high at the end of the backstroke.

If you are using an End Assembly position per 10-22-C, then you would have to use 10-23-C Top Arc and Straight Line if you still want to use a Straight Line.

From the End position, the Top Arc and Angled Line per 10-23-D and the Circle Delivery Path per 10-23-E are also available.

Assuming you are using indeed the Top Assembly Position as a swinger, starting down aim the edge of your right hand (as in karate chop) to the inside aft quadrant of the ball.

This is in essence aiming point per 6-E-2: "The Aiming Point replaces the Ball so you no longer direct the #3 Pressure Point at the Ball but at the Aiming Point just as it were the ball - like an explosion shot from sand."

It is "a point at which Thrust is directed"

If you are using one ball position for all shots, then the aiming point changes.

For the sandwedge, you aim at the front of the ball.
For the 5 iron, you aim at the ball.
For the driver, you aim behind the ball.

This is done to compensate the time it takes for the different clubs to reach their in-line condition.

If you are using different ball positions, then the aiming point is the ball itself.
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Originally Posted by comdpa

1. Assuming you are using indeed the Top Assembly Position as a swinger, starting down aim the edge of your right hand (as in karate chop) to the inside aft quadrant of the ball.

2. This is in essence aiming point per 6-E-2: "The Aiming Point replaces the Ball so you no longer direct the #3 Pressure Point at the Ball but at the Aiming Point just as it were the ball - like an explosion shot from sand."

It is "a point at which Thrust is directed"
Compda,

I took the liberty of numbering your points . . . are we talking relatives hear? Husband and wife? Kissin' cousins? or Jeckle and Hyde?

Are these two different procedures do you think? Or just different means of getting to the same point? Maybe some are better off focusing on aiming #3? And others better to CHOP!!!!

What do you think?

Thanks!

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Old 01-25-2006, 09:22 PM
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Compda,

I took the liberty of numbering your points . . . are we talking relatives hear? Husband and wife? Kissin' cousins? or Jeckle and Hyde?

Are these two different procedures do you think? Or just different means of getting to the same point? Maybe some are better off focusing on aiming #3? And others better to CHOP!!!!

What do you think?

Thanks!

B
To me they are the same thing, although some may disagree.

It depends on whether one is a hitter or swinger or what sort of Left Wrist Action is being utilised.

For one who is using the Standard Wrist Action per 10-18-A, then the right elbow should be supporting the secondary lever assembly (club) and be perpendicular to it per 7-3.

For the one who is using the Single Wrist Action per 10-18-C, then the right elbow should be supporting the primary lever assembly (left arm) and be perpendicular to it per 7-3.

At the top now, notice that #3 is looking more sky ward for the swinger while #3 is actually more visible to the ball, if you can imagine standing at the inside aft quadrant looking at #3.

To this end, the hitters in my stable find it infinitely easier to aim/direct (6-C-2-A) #3 at the inside quadrant of the ball.

This seems to complement the "right hand punch" of the Punch Basic Stroke per 10-3-A and the Right Arm Throw Trigger Type per 10-20-B.

For the swingers, because the #3 is facing the sky, getting them to drive it straight at the aiming point tends to lead to an over the top move.

Thus, aiming the edge of the right hand or left hand or a double karate chop is recommended...which complements the
Pitch Basic Stroke per 10-3-B and the Wrist Throw Trigger Type per 10-20-E.

As it goes up, so it tends to come down, because the swinger is using the Standard Wrist Action, it will roll and uncock during the release. Centrifugal Force will line everything up for the swinger.

Using the Aiming Point (6-E-2) procedure leads to Automatic Releases (6-R-0, 10-24-C/E/F)
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