I'll use this thread for bits of the book I've got a few queries on.
10-5-0, 2nd paragraph:
"You can see the Angle of Approach blur of the Clubhead during On Line procedures..."
Isn't the Angle of Approach procedure a Cross Line procedure?
7-1, last sentence:
"The prestressed (bent) Clubshaft (10-19-A) and maximum Swing Radius (10-19-C) are resistances to Impact Decelerations that each must establish before – not during – Impact (2-M-1)."
What bugs me are the terms in parenthesis. Why is the prestressed Clubshaft associated only with Drive Loading (10-19-A), and max Swing Radius associated only to Drag Loading (10-19-C). I thought Swingers should also go into Impact with a prestressed Clubshaft, no? Likewise, Hitters should have max Swing Radius too, no?
10-19-0, 2nd paragraph:
"Drive Loading tends toward minimum Lag (the short (Compact) Stroke) – meaning contracted muscles (muscle pull). Drag Loading tends toward maximum Lag (the full (Long) Stroke) – meaning stretched muscles (tendon pull)."
Firstly, what kind of Lag was Homer referring to? Pivot Lag, Accumulator Lag or Clubhead Lag? Can someone explain the difference between contracted and stretched muscles; muscle pull and tendon pull?
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I'll use this thread for bits of the book I've got a few queries on.
10-5-0, 2nd paragraph:
"You can see the Angle of Approach blur of the Clubhead during On Line procedures..."
Isn't the Angle of Approach procedure a Cross Line procedure?
Yes, the Angle of Approach procedure is Cross-Line. But what Homer Kelley is saying here is that, in a Swinger's On Line procedure, there is an Angle of Approach (the straight line drawn through the Impact Point and Low Point). And thus you can see the curved Clubhead Blur as it approaches the selected Delivery Line -- the true Geometric Plane Line (2-J-3) -- from the Inside.
In the Hitter's Angle of Approach procedure, an alternative 10-5-E Closed Plane Line becomes the Delivery Line and is erected on the Angle of Approach. The Clubhead then covers that Line and hence does not approach it from the Inside. This leads to one of the book's more obtuse quotes: "There is no Angle of Approach in an Angle of Approach procedure."
Now, technically speaking, the On Line Visual Equivalent would actually be the Arc of Approach (and not the Angle of Approach). However, it is possible for the Hitter to use the true Geometric Plane Line , e.g., 10-5-A per the Basic Stroke Pattern of 12-1-0. In that case, the Right Triceps Thrust could result in a visual Angle of Approach straight line Clubhead Blur through Impact. In other words, the Triceps Thrust toward the Plane Line could result in the Clubhead actually being driven along the Angle of Approach and hence above Plane through Impact.
Yes, the Angle of Approach procedure is Cross-Line. But what Homer Kelley is saying here is that, in a Swinger's On Line procedure, there is an Angle of Approach (the straight line drawn through the Impact Point and Low Point). And thus you can see the Clubhead Blur as it approaches the selected Delivery Line -- the true Geometric Plane Line (2-J-3) -- from the Inside.
In the Hitter's Angle of Approach procedure, an alternative 10-5-E Closed Plane Line becomes the Delivery Line and is erected on the Angle of Approach. The Clubhead then covers that Line and hence does not approach it from the Inside. This leads to one of the book's more obtuse quotes: "There is no Angle of Approach in an Angle of Approach procedure."
Now, technically speaking, the On Line Visual Equivalent would actually be the Arc of Approach (and not the Angle of Approach). However, it is possible for the Hitter to use the true Geometric Plane Line , e.g., 10-5-A per the Basic Stroke Pattern of 12-1-0. In that case, the Right Triceps Thrust could result in a visual Angle of Approach Clubhead Blur through Impact. In other words, the Triceps Thrust toward the Plane Line could result in the Clubhead actually being driven along the Angle of Approach and hence above Plane through Impact.
The MASTER HAS SPOKEN . . . .
"There is no Angle of Approach in an Angle of Approach procedure." The difference between COVERING and pointing at.
Can you SWING on the Angle of Approach (10-5-E Closed Closed Cross Line)? Or is that a NO NO?
Can you SWING on the Angle of Approach (10-5-E Closed Closed Cross Line)? Or is that a NO NO?
The Swinger's Motion is On Line whereas the Hitter's Thrust is Cross-Line (7-23). Hence, the (Cross-Line) Angle of Approach procedure is not compatible with Swinging.
The Swinger's Motion is On Line whereas the Hitter's Thrust is Cross-Line (7-23). Hence, the (Cross-Line) Angle of Approach procedure is not compatible with Swinging.
I was one of those kids that got a square peg in a round hole. But, I am a hitter.
The Swinger's Motion is On Line whereas the Hitter's Thrust is Cross-Line (7-23). Hence, the (Cross-Line) Angle of Approach procedure is not compatible with Swinging.
Thanks for the reply Yoda
But, confusingly, the 10-5-E Closed Plane Line can be worked into the Swinger's procedure, e.g. to hit a draw.
Originally Posted by Yoda
In the Hitter's Angle of Approach procedure, an alternative 10-5-E Closed Plane Line becomes the Delivery Line and is erected on the Angle of Approach. The Clubhead then covers that Line and hence does not approach it from the Inside. This leads to one of the book's more obtuse quotes: "There is no Angle of Approach in an Angle of Approach procedure."
When you say "cover", you mean visually cover (i.e. from the player's view) don't you? I ask because the plane cannot be so upright that it's vertical to the ground!
...confusingly, the 10-5-E Closed Plane Line can be worked into the Swinger's procedure, e.g. to hit a draw.
When you say "cover", you mean visually cover (i.e. from the player's view) don't you? I ask because the plane cannot be so upright that it's vertical to the ground!
The Swinger using 10-5-E to hit a Draw is not the same thing as the Hitter using 10-5-E as the Angle of Approach Delivery Line. The former Traces the Delivery Line -- 'points at it' with the Clubhead -- whereas the latter 'Covers' it (also with the Clubhead). This Covering -- the Clubhead directly above the Delivery Line -- is 'for real' and not merely visual.
Covering does indeed cause the Hitter's Plane to be steeper. However, it does not cause it to be Vertical. Instead, per 2-J-3, its Angle is dictated by the Clubshaft motions required for the Clubhead to cover the Angle of Approach and its extensions (before Impact Point and after Low Point).
The good news is that all Delivery Lines -- whether the true Geometric Plane Line or its Visual Equivalents (Arc and Angle of Approach) are Traced by the Right Forearm and the #3 Pressure Point. So, as always, the discipline is to get your mind out of the Club and into your Hands.
The Swinger using 10-5-E to hit a Draw is not the same thing as the Hitter using 10-5-E as the Angle of Approach Delivery Line. The former Traces the Delivery Line -- 'points at it' with the Clubhead -- whereas the latter 'Covers' it (also with the Clubhead). This Covering -- the Clubhead directly above the Delivery Line -- is 'for real' and not merely visual.
Covering does indeed cause the Hitter's Plane to be steeper. However, it does not cause it to be Vertical. Instead, per 2-J-3, its Angle is dictated by the Clubshaft motions required for the Clubhead to cover the Angle of Approach and its extensions (before Impact Point and after Low Point).
Here is what I am thinking:
All Delivery Lines, including the Angle of Approach, are inscribed on the face of the Inclined Plane. Because the new Plane errected is based on the Angle of Approach (of the old Plane), as we move up the new plane (i.e. go up and in and back), we will pointing at this Delivery Line, but not actually covering it.
All Delivery Lines, including the Angle of Approach, are inscribed on the face of the Inclined Plane. Because the new Plane errected is based on the Angle of Approach (of the old Plane), as we move up the new plane (i.e. go up and in and back), we will pointing at this Delivery Line, but not actually covering it.
Thanks, lets hope I can clear this up!
No, Leo, that is incorrect. To say that you "point at this Delivery Line" (the Angle of Approach) is to say that there is an Angle of Approach to the Angle of Approach. And there is none! The Delivery Line IS the Angle of Approach.
Said another way, there is no Visual Equivalent to the Visual Equivalent.
No, Leo, that is incorrect. To say that you "point at this Delivery Line" (the Angle of Approach) is to say that there is an Angle of Approach to the Angle of Approach. And there is none! The Delivery Line IS the Angle of Approach.
Said another way, there is no Visual Equivalent to the Visual Equivalent.
Ok, ok, but...
The NEW 10-5-E Plane Line IS (the proxy for) the Angle of Approach, correct?
If that's true, then you ALWAYS point at/trace the Plane Line (1-L-6), no?
...slowly but surely we are getting to the heart of the problem!
Lets crack this!!
EDIT: one more thing to add to the party -- per 10-5-0, all Delivery Lines (On Line or Cross Line) must be executed as Plane Lines with their individual Inclined Planes.
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