Often see the "glove/headcover under left armpit drill" and have found it to be helpful in my pre -TGM days. Should this feeling of connection be present whilst "swinging"?
When I try to swing, with pitch elbow position, i sometimes feel that there is minimal connection between left upper arm and chest. It gives me a loose-limbed feeling with little tension or conscious "hit" but ball striking is inconsistent.
It seems to occur if my left shoulder rises too early and my shoulders rotate too early on downswing? The only way I can create that feeling of connection is by delaying shoulder downswing rotation - along the lines of keeping back to target longer in downswing.
If you use this as a means to monitor pressure point 4, I guess it can be useful. But I suspect that a lot of students have been taught to hold the headcover under the left armpit and try to keep it there to completion of the swing, which would prevent the left arm from being flung off the chest right after ball contact. When I try it that way, it creates the sensation of steering. Not good.
If you use this as a means to monitor pressure point 4, I guess it can be useful. But I suspect that a lot of students have been taught to hold the headcover under the left armpit and try to keep it there to completion of the swing, which would prevent the left arm from being flung off the chest right after ball contact. When I try it that way, it creates the sensation of steering. Not good.
Anyone else feel this?
Almost answered my own question found this quote from yoda archives-
12-5-3 Total Motion
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Originally Posted by Phillygolf
Oh yeah, and if you can envision Vijay and his towel drill, I wouldnt recommend it. That is 'squeezing' and for the life of me, I have no clue why he does it. Guess he wants to stay connected.
-Patrick
The 'under the arm' Clubcover or towel drill is what people -- even great golfer people -- do when they don't know the existence, the purpose or the motion of the #3 Accumulator from Release to the end of the Follow-Through and the subsequent On Plane Swivel to the Finish.
Such a misguided attempt to create or constrain these forces is hazardous to your Golf Stroke and your health. In Vijay's case, he suffered a broken rib and a few unintended weeks of rehab.
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So much good stuff in the archives but quite a trawl. It is amazing how many people ask the same questions as soon as they join this site, myself included!!
Definitely need a "primer" or "FAQ" section for newbies. Not a "for dummies" section, but real answers to the most common questions we ask - the reason most of us are here is for truth, however complicated, rather than simplified junk.
How about a new thread for the "questions you most need answers to when you first chance upon the yellow book" ?
I have now found the answers to these but how about -
1. What and why is "impact fix"?
2. Why do pros not adopt a formal "impact fix" ?( great answer from yoda on 06/03/2004) to this one!!!
3. Flying wedges and dowel drills - what? ( great answer with photos etc in the archives - 09/04/2004 - thanks Yoda!! ( and golfingrandy and martee photos and upload skills respectively)
and so on...
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Tried to find this but failed .. what term do you search for? Thanks.
Did not do a search just went through all the "yoda archives" and read any heading which seemed interesting. Here are the posts which i saved ( i don't think the photos will show up though but they were part of the 2nd post i think ( try a search of all old yoda archives and wedges or dowels - maybe that will help):
A 'How To' On Dowel Practice
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Originally posted by rwh
If you think this seems too simple, it's not. No less an authority than Holenone put me on this precise curriculum "until mastered" -- and I had been playing the game for 40 years.
Oh, and it works -- big time.
Thanks for the testimonial, rwh. And we didn't even start with a Club. We started with a wooden dowel! It's amazing how when there is no Clubhead, you are suddenly free to think about your Hands and their Alignments.
As an example, I today received a very nice letter from a long-time PGA teaching professional who attended our Pine Needles 'Secrets' Workshop in early August. Here is a direct quote from that letter:
"I have utilized the drills/procedures you showed us with my students. In using the dowels to set up the flying wedges I have asked my students to hit balls without consciously changing the alignments they have established. This seems to result in better contact and straighter shots almost immediately no matter what length motion employed."
Well, there you go!
That is why I personally spend at least some time with the dowels every day. Dedicate just three minutes a day to the dowels. Surely better golf for the rest of your life is worth three minutes a day!
Grip a 5/8" dowel with the shaft running well up your Left Forearm. Practice your Left Arm Flying Wedge alone. Then your Right Forearm Flying Wedge alone. Trace a Plane Line a few times with that Right Forearm Wedge. Then the complete the Assembly. Trace some more. All the while, Look, Look LOOK to make sure you're getting it right. Don't trust Feel alone. We're programming here, and your Alignments must be perfect.
Go to Fix, and do a few Right Forearm Takeaways. If you're a Swinger, do a few continuous Motions -- back-and-through and back-and-through -- with only the Left Arm Wedge and Feeling the Start Up, Release and Finish Swivels. Feel the Drag of the Left Wrist Load, and especially Feel the Left Wrist Centrifugal Throw-Out in Release. Listen to that Swoosh on every pass back-and-through. Even with this Snap Release, keep the Motion deliberate, positive and heavy.
If you're a Hitter, practice your Right Arm Drive Out in a similar fashion, only more 'sequenced' and a bit less 'continuous.' Load that Right Elbow at the Top. Then Drive the Heel of that Right Hand into the back of the Left Thumb and Dowel on the Downstroke. Keep that Left Wrist Flat and that Right Wrist Bent. Bend and Straighten that Right Elbow with a decisive, rigid Motion. Bend and Drive Out! Bend and Drive Out! Thrust! Mentally detect every possible describable sensation. Differentiate these alignments from your current procedure.
It won't happen all at once, but it will happen. Three minutes daily -- not twenty minutes weekly! -- is all it takes. Over time, your good shots get even better. More importantly, your bad shots get a whole lot better!
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Originally Posted by vincekemp
Thanks Yoda,
I take it that the above move is critical in a all G.O.L.F shots?
Lets try and see if I am on the right track. As far as I can comprehend the angle of the club shaft at address effectivly sets the plane angle? If that is so does that mean when setting up for the on plane right forearm it effectivly extends from the shaft in a line along the right forearm, slightly bent at the elbow. From there as I take the club back the right forearm should follow the plane line up and back to the top with a still bent right wrist?
If that is correct then on the downswing and through, the motion is the same maintaining the bent right wrist to the top. If that is so and it seems that it can be done (in the backyard without a ball at least) then is there any release at all from the right wrist. Or is this the difference between swinging and hitting or am I describing a slap at the ball.? See I told you I was confused!!! I think I need more pictures. (I do have "the book"). The ones supplied earlier in this post of the dowel, forearm and table told more than words could describe. something on the later move and the bending elbow may clear things up.
vince
Vince,
Ideally, the player establishes a Turned Shoulder Plane (10-6-B) at Impact Fix and positions the Right Forearm and Clubshaft on this Plane. Study this Right Forearm alignment in the pictures 9-2-2 #2 and 9-2-10 #2.
Regarding the Right Wrist 'Release'...it has none. The Wrist Release is an Uncocking of the Left Wrist (2-P). Even though it is executed on an Inclined Plane, the Wristcock remains a Vertical motion (4-B-0/1/2/3) and it defines the plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (6-B-3-0-1). Any Flattening of the Right Wrist is a Horizontal Motion (4-A-0/1/2/3) that destroys the alignments of both the Right Arm and Left Arm Flying Wedges.
The pictures below should help clarify things. Thanks to Golfingrandy for the photos and to Martee for his help on getting these up!
The Left Arm and Right Forearm Flying Wedges (Zero #3 Accumulator)
The Right Forearm Flying Wedge -- On Plane Forearm and Clubshaft
The Left Arm Flying Wedge -- Off Plane Forearm (with #3 Accumulator) and On Plane Clubshaft
The Flying Wedges Assembly
The On Plane Right Forearm Flying Wedge on a Horizontal Plane
The Right Forearm Flying Arm Wedge lowered to an Inclined Plane
The Impact Alignment and Angle of Approach of the Right Forearm Wedge
Question for Yoda
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Originally Posted by RCW
Yoda,
The right forearm is on plane when? Please answer this question it will clear up alot of fog.
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Originally Posted by jaminid
The right forearm flying wedge always has its own plane. The right forearm is on plane from release to follow-through and preferably at fix to startup as well.
RCW,
Jaminid's answer is on the money. And because the Hands -- specifically the #3 Pressure Point -- are always On Plane, then when the Right Elbow is On Plane, the Right Forearm is also On Plane.
In an extensive discussion of this point, Homer stated that he found no benefit in attempting to keep the Right Forearm On Plane except as Jaminid has described, i.e., during the Address Routine and Start Up and during the Release Interval (through Impact to Follow-Through). The guiding principles are:
1. At Fix, establish your Flat, Level and Vertical Left Wrist and your On Plane Right Forearm Angle of Approach (7-3).
2. At Start Up, take your Hands Up, Back, and In on the Plane of your Right Forearm.
3. Through Impact, return to the Fix Hand Location and the established Right Forearm Angle of Approach.
"If I were starting to play golf, this is what I would concentrate on. It's what it all boils down to. It's even simpler than The Triad."
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