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Old 05-16-2006, 10:03 PM
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Hands go back hips go forward
Yo. Is there anything anywhere in the Book about the lower body leading the downstroke while the hands are still moving on the backstroke?

This seems to happen in most dynamic motions. Is this something to "work on?" Or something to leave alone?

This can definitely be seen in the Ted Kroll thread.

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Old 05-16-2006, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Yo. Is there anything anywhere in the Book about the lower body leading the downstroke while the hands are still moving on the backstroke?

This seems to happen in most dynamic motions. Is this something to "work on?" Or something to leave alone?

This can definitely be seen in the Ted Kroll thread.

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Geez Mr. Chicken, there must have been thousands of golfers doing that when HK was researching TGM.
Let me just say.....

Pivot Controlled Hands? Or Hands Controlled "Just taking out a bit of slack?"
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Yo. Is there anything anywhere in the Book about the lower body leading the downstroke while the hands are still moving on the backstroke?

This seems to happen in most dynamic motions. Is this something to "work on?" Or something to leave alone?

This can definitely be seen in the Ted Kroll thread.

Holla back.

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Isn't that essentially what occurs if one float loads? The hips bump left and clear a little while the right forearm brings the club to top / end on plane. Then everything starts down loading the shaft.
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Isn't that essentially what occurs if one float loads? The hips bump left and clear a little while the right forearm brings the club to top / end on plane. Then everything starts down loading the shaft.
Could be but looks like most of the tour guys have this going on? Lower body going forward as hands are still moving back.
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Old 05-17-2006, 01:50 PM
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Could be but looks like most of the tour guys have this going on? Lower body going forward as hands are still moving back.
It is a method for generating extra lag so it would not surprise me to see many of the tour players using this technique, especially those of smaller stature or strength. I do it too, but I am a distance pig (oink, oink).
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I remember George Kelnhofer(G.S.E.D.) talking about this one time. He said that some photographers asked Nicklaus to stop at the Top and pose, so they coud take a picture there. He said, "I can't." They asked why, Palmer, and the rest of the guys did it? He said something like..."They may have thought they did it, but, my last move up, is the same as my first move down."

I think he was trying to describe this "transitional" phase of the swing. It seems to be more obvious with the Float Loaders, but you can see something similar in players like Hogan, and Gary Player. David Lee(Gravity Golf), called this 2:1 timing, where the weight moves over and back, before the backswing is finished.

For Swingers... this is part of the #4 Accumulator loading.
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Lagster, could you describe in further detail the 'over and back'?
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Lagster, could you describe in further detail the 'over and back'?
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David Lee calls this 2:1 Timing. Not everyone does it quite this way, but with the ones that do... the WEIGHT moves from the LEFT FOOT to the RIGHT FOOT, and back to the LEFT FOOT, before the HANDS, ARMS, AND UPPER TRUNK have finished their motion on the BACKSWING. This sets up what he calls... A "ROTARY WHIP-SLING, on the DOWNSWING. The LEFT HIP is now able to turn and "sling" the arms.

In TGMese... it is a procedure for LOADING the left FOOT, and setting up PIVOT LAG.
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thank you Lagster, it sounds like emphasis on a pivot controlled motion, but i would guess it is training of the pivot component.
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thank you Lagster, it sounds like emphasis on a pivot controlled motion, but i would guess it is training of the pivot component.
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Yes, this is a procedure where the HANDS just hold, but they have to be EDUCATED.
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