I have been trying to incorporate extensor action into my swing for a while now. But i've found it difficult, it seems to inhibit the looseness of my wrist and arms, my swing feels less 'swing' like when i'm using it.
This got me thinking how important extensor action is for a swinger. I was looking at the 'pure' thread in the Swingers section which was looking for a 'true swinger' on tour. Names mentioned were VJ, Freddie, Bobby Jones, Monty, Daly etc.. Now i'm no expert but to me these guys don't seem to be applying extensor action. Just wondered what you guys thought about this?
I have been trying to incorporate extensor action into my swing for a while now. But i've found it difficult, it seems to inhibit the looseness of my wrist and arms, my swing feels less 'swing' like when i'm using it.
This got me thinking how important extensor action is for a swinger. I was looking at the 'pure' thread in the Swingers section which was looking for a 'true swinger' on tour. Names mentioned were VJ, Freddie, Bobby Jones, Monty, Daly etc.. Now i'm no expert but to me these guys don't seem to be applying extensor action. Just wondered what you guys thought about this?
Cheers,
Danny
An excellent question Danny. IMO, a 'true' swinger allows CF to help keep exensor action back and through. I too often find that applying extensor action when swinging 'can' hinder the flow of CF, but the trick is to apply just enough to keep the structure without getting in the way of CF.
Certainly when hitting I personally feel and use extensor action to a greater degree, or at least that is the feel. In both cases someone watching probably wouldn't see a difference. That said - extensor action is absolutely important - and most people do not have enough.
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Ya I agree....pure Swingers don't seem to have much Ex. Action.....and the "CF creating it" I def. agree with. The weight of the club almost seems to add Ex. Action and cock the left wrist.
And that comment about more Ex. Action with Hitting makes sense too....it seems to almost serve to limit the length of swing for you....and discourages Swinging.
When I started playing golf tho....I was one of the ones who had TOO much Ex. Action....way too much. My dad would always tell me to try for "Extension."
So I was tense, and swayed (a lot), and had no wrist cock (not to mention that I had the habit of setting up with almost an Uncocked left wrist)....esp. ugly with Standard Wrist Action I think......(shudders).
An excellent question Danny. IMO, a 'true' swinger allows CF to help keep exensor action back and through. I too often find that applying extensor action when swinging 'can' hinder the flow of CF, but the trick is to apply just enough to keep the structure without getting in the way of CF.
Certainly when hitting I personally feel and use extensor action to a greater degree, or at least that is the feel. In both cases someone watching probably wouldn't see a difference. That said - extensor action is absolutely important - and most people do not have enough.
I dunno if any beneficial CF is present on the backswing.
When you mention the structure wrt EA, is there a clear indicator of lack of EA? Where in the structure is the breakdown most obvious?
Tom Tomasello said the key for Swingers was to have "EXTENSION WITHOUT TENSION."
A Hitter can have some tension and get away with it.
Nice quote lagster, definitely sounds something to strive for. Any idea how though? Is it possible to apply extensor action without creating tension? From my experience they seem directly proportionate.
I was thinking the other day and i'm sure theres a good reason why this is a terrible idea. But what if you applied some extensor action at address just to verify your radius. Then didn't think about it at all throughout the swing. But just trying to get a tensionless inert left arm and letting CF do all the extending.
Nice quote lagster, definitely sounds something to strive for. Any idea how though? Is it possible to apply extensor action without creating tension? From my experience they seem directly proportionate.
I was thinking the other day and i'm sure theres a good reason why this is a terrible idea. But what if you applied some extensor action at address just to verify your radius. Then didn't think about it at all throughout the swing. But just trying to get a tensionless inert left arm and letting CF do all the extending.
Several SWINGERS have expressed that they have trouble with too much right arm involvement when they apply EXTENSOR ACTION, and do not attempt to use this in their SWINGING TECHNIQUE. Others are able to keep as "SEPARATE IDENTITIES" the(1) slight pressure applied through the #1 Prerssure Point to stretch the INERT LEFT ARM, and(2) the THRUST of the #1 Accumulator.
This seems to be one of those items that each player must sort out for himself.
Tension
Pressure
Stiffening
Straightening the left arm- all bad thoughts
Extensor action is
a tug,
a pull,
a stretch
of the ‘left arm bungee cord’- the noodle arm that is the master power accumulator by the active right arm folding (up swing) and straightening (down swing).
A bungee cord never gets stiff- pulled and stretch by not stiff.
The tug is linear in direction (outward away from the center) and doesn’t move the left arm along the arc of the swing circle.
Tension
Pressure
Stiffening
Straightening the left arm- all bad thoughts
Extensor action is
a tug,
a pull,
a stretch
of the ‘left arm bungee cord’- the noodle arm that is the master power accumulator by the active right arm folding (up swing) and straightening (down swing).
A bungee cord never gets stiff- pulled and stretch by not stiff.
The tug is linear in direction (outward away from the center) and doesn’t move the left arm along the arc of the swing circle.
Welcome back Mike. Your timing could not have been better. Yanks in FIRST!!!!!!!!!!! I am sure Drew will respond now.
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