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Old 04-26-2009, 12:16 AM
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Right foot rolling too quickly
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You know how Kenny Perry keeps his right foot down all the way through contact and doesn't roll onto his right toe until after the ball is gone? I have the other problem, coming up on that toe too quickly which is throwing me out and over the top. To fix this, my teacher (Donna White, Palm Beach County, FL) is having me hit balls from a side hill lie, ball above my feet. In that position, gravity keeps me more on my heels at impact (just an extra half count) and the result is that I hit great shots, straight as an arrow--even with the long hybrids and fairway woods! I need to keep that feeling of "being grounded" on my right side just a little longer once I get on a level lie/stance but it's difficult for me after so many years of firing my hips and sliding forward too quickly.

Anybody have a suggestion to keep me grounded? Thank.

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Old 04-26-2009, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gmsolomon View Post
I'm a new member and this is my first post....

You know how Kenny Perry keeps his right foot down all the way through contact and doesn't roll onto his right toe until after the ball is gone? I have the other problem, coming up on that toe too quickly which is throwing me out and over the top. To fix this, my teacher (Donna White, Palm Beach County, FL) is having me hit balls from a side hill lie, ball above my feet. In that position, gravity keeps me more on my heels at impact (just an extra half count) and the result is that I hit great shots, straight as an arrow--even with the long hybrids and fairway woods! I need to keep that feeling of "being grounded" on my right side just a little longer once I get on a level lie/stance but it's difficult for me after so many years of firing my hips and sliding forward too quickly.

Anybody have a suggestion to keep me grounded? Thank.

p.s. The title of this post should be "Right foot...." (Sticky keyboard...missed the 'R')
Mr. Newbe,

You have a Teacher. I don’t want to step on toes, yours surely, but hers, never. I don’t think that “Coming over the Top” results from Raising your Right Heel. Think about this. By the time your right heel is raised, you’re almost at impact; therefore, you were already over-the-top.

Please don’t tell her that you sought advice elsewhere. Maybe the following will help you ask better questions as will reading any of the Posts on Lynnblakegolf.com.

Are you pulling with your Arms from the Top of the Swing? That’s an Over-the-Top move. Hitting Balls on a Side Hill lie, with the Ball above your feet, needs an Over-the-Top move. Thus, you’re adapting the lie to compensate for your over-the-top move.

A side hill lie with the Ball above your feet will place your center of gravity over your heels. So, the weight in your heels is because of the side hill lie, and the balls are going straight because you have the over the top move that it takes to hit the ball straight on such a slope.

I do agree with your body’s center of gravity toward your heels to wiggle your toes at Address. However, merely positioning your hips so far back only makes your over-the-top move a little more on-plane because the Right Hip isn’t moving toward the Plane-line during the Downswing so your Over-the-top move isn’t exaggerated as much.

Your over-the-top move pulls your right hip toward the Plane-Line during the Downswing which severely bends the Right Knee, which severely raises the Right Heel. You are swinging from the Arms. Stop it. Swing from the feet.

Ask her "how do I swing the Golfclub without pulling with my arms?"
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gmsolomon View Post
I'm a new member and this is my first post....

You know how Kenny Perry keeps his right foot down all the way through contact and doesn't roll onto his right toe until after the ball is gone? I have the other problem, coming up on that toe too quickly which is throwing me out and over the top. To fix this, my teacher (Donna White, Palm Beach County, FL) is having me hit balls from a side hill lie, ball above my feet. In that position, gravity keeps me more on my heels at impact (just an extra half count) and the result is that I hit great shots, straight as an arrow--even with the long hybrids and fairway woods! I need to keep that feeling of "being grounded" on my right side just a little longer once I get on a level lie/stance but it's difficult for me after so many years of firing my hips and sliding forward too quickly.

Anybody have a suggestion to keep me grounded? Thank.

Do you film it? Where do you hips go? Do they slide laterally down your stance line? Or do they go toward the ball? Keep them away from the ball and slide them down your stance line.
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Old 04-26-2009, 11:06 AM
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Do you film it? Where do you hips go? Do they slide laterally down your stance line? Or do they go toward the ball? Keep them away from the ball and slide them down your stance line.
Thats what I was wondering about too. Or maybe a right hip that turns too early (with the right foot going up) and sends the arms out over the plane.

The hips need to slide towards the target , with a steady centered head and the right hip held back. A slight (2 or 3"s) slide to shift the weight left with the hip rotation delayed. This tilts your shoulders ("axis tilt") as well promoting an "on plane move of the right shoulder" and leaving you with a clear inside delivery path of the hands to the ball. No re routing needed to prevent a collision between arms and right hip. Lots of terminology I know.

You can use the search function on this site to research the following key words:

"roundhousing"

"cleared right hip" (both back and through)

"axis tilt"

"on plane right shoulder"

and of critical importance for the over the top move and perhaps the best corrective drill:

"start down waggles". Do two of them for every pull shot on the range and then step up quickly and smack it. No more pulls. A good pre shot waggle too for some.
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