Bobby Jones - Stroke pattern and Sequence

[Mathew]

I categorised Bobby Jones stroke and welcome any feedback...

1 grip-basic - A - overlap
2 grip-type - ????
3 stroke-basic - B - Pitch
4 Stroke-variation - C4 - Triple Barrel 2/3/4
5 Plane Line - D - Open Open
6 Plane Angle basic - B - Turned Shoulder
7 Plane Angle variation - C - Double Shift
8 Fix - A - Standard
9 Address - A - standard
10 Hinge Actions - D - Dual Horizontal
11 Pressure Point Combinations - C4 - Triple 2/3/4
12 Pivot - A - Standard
13 Shoulder Turn - C - Rotated
14 Hip Turn - A - Standard
15 Hip Action - A - Standard
16 Knee Action - A - Standard
17 Foot Action - A - Standard
18 Left Wrist Action - B - Double
19 Lag Loading - C - Drag Loading
20 Trigger Type - E - Wrist Throw
21 Power Package Assembly Point - C - End
22 Power Package Loading Action - B - Random Sweep
23 Power Package Delivery Path - A - Top Arc and Straight Line
24 Power Package Release - E - Automatic

[Uppndownn]

Fabulous work!
Awesome!

Thank you for posting your analysis.
Have you spent a few spare moments
researching Mr. Jones?

[johngolf33]

Dear Matthew,

I've always considered Bobby Jones to have a tripple shift. Does it look as though when he gets to "Top" he shifts again to the elbow plane on the downswing instead of just driving down the turned shoulder plane?

[Mathew]

Dear Matthew,

I've always considered Bobby Jones to have a tripple shift. Does it look as though when he gets to "Top" he shifts again to the elbow plane on the downswing instead of just driving down the turned shoulder plane?

You have described the correct procedure but are counting incorrectly. As always Homer uses precise key words - Plane Shift. So how many times does the plane shift ?

Elbow plane - Turned Shoulder plane = 1 shift
Turned Shoulder plane - Elbow plane = 1 Shift
==============================
Total =2Shifts

I think you are mistaking and counting thus: elbow plane (1) - turned shoulder plane (2) - elbow plane (3)........... asking how many planes has he been on ?

Then following on that presumption the double plane would then be mistaken as elbow plane (1) - turned shoulder plane (2) which is why you believe you need to come back down on the turned shoulder plane in a double shift stroke....

[Mathew]

Fabulous work!
Awesome!

Thank you for posting your analysis.
Have you spent a few spare moments
researching Mr. Jones?

Its a recent thing but have still looked carefully at his stroke pattern carefully from the limited footage I have. Apart from the traditional aspect of Jones and the amazing story of his life I wanted to try to look carefully at a stroke that isn't my own and is a 'bit different' in a lesson of objectivity...

Using chapter 11 it makes it easy to categorise and through the 24 components you can gain more precision.

and its Thank You for your words of kindness

[johngolf33]

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Dear Matthew, I've always considered Bobby Jones to have a tripple shift. Does it look as though when he gets to "Top" he shifts again to the elbow plane on the downswing instead of just driving down the turned shoulder plane?

You have described the correct procedure but are counting incorrectly. As always Homer uses precise key words - Plane Shift. So how many times does the plane shift ?

Elbow plane - Turned Shoulder plane = 1 shift
Turned Shoulder plane - Elbow plane = 1 Shift
==============================
Total =2Shifts

I think you are mistaking and counting thus: elbow plane (1) - turned shoulder plane (2) - elbow plane (3)........... asking how many planes has he been on ?

Then following on that presumption the double plane would then be mistaken as elbow plane (1) - turned shoulder plane (2) which is why you believe you need to come back down on the turned shoulder plane in a double shift stroke....

Dear Matthew,

I still see it as a triple shift because he does not do a right forearm pickup straight to the turned shoulder, but rather he starts it back on the elbow plane then shifts up below the turned shoulder, then raises to the turned shoulder. He then starts down on the turned shoulder and shifts to the elbow plane.

[Noryang]

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