Push Basic Magic

[okie]

I was as frustrated as a one legged man in a kicking contest on the greens...UNTIL I found the push basic stroke!

Given that psychological needs must be met, I need affirmation! Help me create a list of players that utilize/d this procedure.

This is what I have thus far:

1. Jack Nicklaus
2. George Low
3. Dave Stockton?
4. Homer Kelley

Watching Nicklaus, the right elbow bending and straightening is almost imperceptable. In fact, I only noticed it when I was looking for it! Gotta love TGM!

[dcg1952]

Yoda uses it---I know, because he taught it to me in March 2005!

[Daryl]

I don't know anyone who uses it. Other than me.

[okie]

Push basic stroke alone has made all of the hours studying TGM worthwhile! I am waiting for George Low's book to arrive in the mail. I am curious to know how he taught it. Horton Smith may be another candidate for the push basic, tough to tell. It is tough to see the #1 Acc. do its thing, especially on short putts.

A question for you Daryl: Did you find speed to be an issue initially? The ball really jumps off the face. I basically steered my putts with a vertical hinge for 20 years! I went back to an old and lighter Wilson blade putter...which helped. I do a much better job using my right elbow to power the stroke. I can bend that elbow as deliberately as I want to (a great joint...the elbow!)
I am starting to scare the hole from all over the place! Closer to the hole I have to remember to straighten the elbow, though.

[Daryl]

Push basic stroke alone has made all of the hours studying TGM worthwhile! I am waiting for George Low's book to arrive in the mail. I am curious to know how he taught it. Horton Smith may be another candidate for the push basic, tough to tell. It is tough to see the #1 Acc. do its thing, especially on short putts.

A question for you Daryl: Did you find speed to be an issue initially? The ball really jumps off the face. I basically steered my putts with a vertical hinge for 20 years! I went back to an old and lighter Wilson blade putter...which helped. I do a much better job using my right elbow to power the stroke. I can bend that elbow as deliberately as I want to (a great joint...the elbow!)
I am starting to scare the hole from all over the place! Closer to the hole I have to remember to straighten the elbow, though.

It took me about 30 minutes to comprehend the mechanics of the Right Hand, ie. how the Right Wrist stays bent and motionless while the Right Elbow straightens (including followthru). The immediate and indisputable improvement was accuracy. A bad putt missed the hole by only an inch. Distance control on short and medium length putts became a no-brainier within minutes. Distance control on long putts is more difficult but no more difficult than the pendulum swing and I use the word "difficult" compared to short putts which are utterly simple.

[golfbulldog]

I had an attempt last summer with this style of stroke - got really good roll on the ball... ball tracked well and felt different on contact but I found alignment alittle hard ...

I read somewhere that Dave Stockton has some of the best putting launch monitor stats ever seen...did he use this method??

Seemed to me a more downward stroke feel when i had a go...


Any thoughts?

[Daryl]

I had an attempt last summer with this style of stroke - got really good roll on the ball... ball tracked well and felt different on contact but I found alignment alittle hard ...

I read somewhere that Dave Stockton has some of the best putting launch monitor stats ever seen...did he use this method??

Seemed to me a more downward stroke feel when i had a go...


Any thoughts?

I don't know about DS.

Not really a downward stroke. Just down the line. Pretty flat, level and even with the ground.

[okie]

Golfbulldog,

The push basic stroke is still a 3 - D deal. Low point may not be below the ground with putting, but there are still no flat spots in a circle! What I think you are feeling is the UP and the DOWNtthat was previously missing! Make sure that your ball is not too far back of lowpoint. I think most people, much like with the full swing go too low on the backstroke. I have studied Bobby Locke's putting mechanics, and although he claims to keep the putter head low going back...he did not do that himself! Of course some people need more back than up...most do not! How much up? It depends on the amount of bend in your right elbow.

I have a suspicion that Dave Stockton was a push basic guy. I notice that he had more of an adjusted address, then he set his wedges going back (much like Bobby Locke did) and powered the the whole deal with a straigtening right elbow.

My psychological make up will not allow me to use CF on the greens! One of the things I love about Push Basic is that it allows me to practice bending and straightening the right elbow...drum roll please...WITHOUT straightening my bent and level right wrist

My 9 year old boy knocks it around now and then. That is the only piece of instruction I have given to him. Just bend and straighten your elbow without flattening your right wrist. He doesn't look, look, look yet...but I do!

I am convinced that is the best test for "golfing dexterity." Whether or not you can bend and straighten your right/left arm while keeping the right/left wrist bent. If not then take up War Craft, or something!

[Daryl]

Golfbulldog,

The push basic stroke is still a 3 - D deal. Low point may not be below the ground with putting, but there are still no flat spots in a circle! What I think you are feeling is the UP and the DOWNtthat was previously missing! Make sure that your ball is not too far back of lowpoint. I think most people, much like with the full swing go too low on the backstroke. I have studied Bobby Locke's putting mechanics, and although he claims to keep the putter head low going back...he did not do that himself! Of course some people need more back than up...most do not! How much up? It depends on the amount of bend in your right elbow.

I have a suspicion that Dave Stockton was a push basic guy. I notice that he had more of an adjusted address, then he set his wedges going back (much like Bobby Locke did) and powered the the whole deal with a straigtening right elbow.

My psychological make up will not allow me to use CF on the greens! One of the things I love about Push Basic is that it allows me to practice bending and straightening the right elbow...drum roll please...WITHOUT straightening my bent and level right wrist

My 9 year old boy knocks it around now and then. That is the only piece of instruction I have given to him. Just bend and straighten your elbow without flattening your right wrist. He doesn't look, look, look yet...but I do!

I am convinced that is the best test for "golfing dexterity." Whether or not you can bend and straighten your right/left arm while keeping the right/left wrist bent. If not then take up War Craft, or something!

Applause.

[spike]

It took me about 30 minutes to comprehend the mechanics of the Right Hand, ie. how the Right Wrist stays bent and motionless while the Right Elbow straightens (including followthru). The immediate and indisputable improvement was accuracy. A bad putt missed the hole by only an inch. Distance control on short and medium length putts became a no-brainier within minutes. Distance control on long putts is more difficult but no more difficult than the pendulum swing and I use the word "difficult" compared to short putts which are utterly simple.

During my practice stroke, for long putts, I hold my finish position at low point and then look at the hole. For some reason I can get a feel for how much thrust I need.