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Old 12-02-2007, 01:54 PM
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Question for Ted: Strength or Technique?
Ted,

I have a strength vs. technique question.

I've seen you hit in person and you are impressively long. Obviously, your technique is good, but my assumption is that at some point technique must give way to right tricep strength. Is right tricep strength the difference maker in hitting, assuming a reasonable technique? What is your right tricep strength level, i.e., how much weight can you press in a right tricep press?
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:59 PM
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Ted,

I have a strength vs. technique question.

I've seen you hit in person and you are impressively long. Obviously, your technique is good, but my assumption is that at some point technique must give way to right tricep strength. Is right tricep strength the difference maker in hitting, assuming a reasonable technique? What is your right tricep strength level, i.e., how much weight can you press in a right tricep press?
Good question...I have no idea how strong I am. I'm sure you can tell that I haven't darkened the door of many fitness facilities.

I know that I always had a lot of strength for my size. I ran for 8 years in high school and college. We had a rope in our basketball gym that went to the ceiling, @ 25 feet. Our cross country regiment was 5 miles in the morning and 10 times up the rope before class. I never had to touch the rope with my legs or feet. That being said, I was 6'0" and 126 lbs. More importantly, high school was many moons ago. With the extra 64 pounds, I'm afraid that I'd have to take the elevator to the roof.

I think that part of my mechanical advantage is the length of my arms. My arms are very long for my size. I can't wear 33" sleeve lengths. 34"/35" are more my speed.
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Old 12-02-2007, 05:24 PM
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We had a rope in our basketball gym that went to the ceiling, @ 25 feet. Our cross country regiment was 5 miles in the morning and 10 times up the rope before class.
10 times up and down a 25 foot rope with arm strength only; impressive! I could never come close to that in school.

The reason I asked my question is that my full swing distance with a 48 degree pitching wedge is 130 yards with Swinging and only 105-110 with Hitting and I am trying to figure out why the disparity.

I can tricep press 20# 10 times with right arm only; probably not very good. But, for someone who is 6'2" and wears a 35" sleeve, it seems I ought to be getting more leverage with a Hitting procedure.
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Old 12-02-2007, 05:53 PM
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10 times up and down a 25 foot rope with arm strength only; impressive! I could never come close to that in school.

The reason I asked my question is that my full swing distance with a 48 degree pitching wedge is 130 yards with Swinging and only 105-110 with Hitting and I am trying to figure out why the disparity.

I can tricep press 20# 10 times with right arm only; probably not very good. But, for someone who is 6'2" and wears a 35" sleeve, it seems I ought to be getting more leverage with a Hitting procedure.
I think you should. There could be any number of reasons. I find often that Swingers lose a good Release Point when trying to Hit. Firstly, because the Right Arm Throw is so foreign, you must learn a new feel through the new mechanic. Then it must be timed. The Start Down must be slow, then it has to be a crescendo of acceleration.
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Old 12-02-2007, 06:55 PM
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I find often that Swingers lose a good Release Point when trying to Hit. Firstly, because the Right Arm Throw is so foreign, you must learn a new feel through the new mechanic. Then it must be timed. The Start Down must be slow, then it has to be a crescendo of acceleration.
Thank you, Ted. Much appreciated.
I'll work on those things and see how it goes.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:46 AM
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I take my b/swing to about 4 " above shoulder height,I feel if I go any higher,I,m out of plane,and the hit isnt as good(hitters pattern),how do I get more length from hitters method.I,ll be honest,on a good day,240-250 metres,I get this feeling that Im just not getting as much out of swing as I can,I just get this feeling that there,s more gas in the tank,how can I acheive more out of swing,Thanks in advance
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:25 AM
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I take my b/swing to about 4 " above shoulder height,I feel if I go any higher,I,m out of plane,and the hit isnt as good(hitters pattern),how do I get more length from hitters method.I,ll be honest,on a good day,240-250 metres,I get this feeling that Im just not getting as much out of swing as I can,I just get this feeling that there,s more gas in the tank,how can I acheive more out of swing,Thanks in advance
You still have to get the bent Right Arm to a Release Point. I find that many think that the Release begins in Start Down for Hitting.
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Thanks for reply,I gather you mean pulling my elbow down to my side and then release,is this where tricep comes into play?Sorry about dumb questions,but TGM book wont be here for a couple of weeks.Thanks again
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Old 12-06-2007, 11:05 AM
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Thanks for reply,I gather you mean pulling my elbow down to my side and then release,is this where tricep comes into play?Sorry about dumb questions,but TGM book wont be here for a couple of weeks.Thanks again
When you get your book you'll find this: 7-24. Power Package Release "The Loaded Power Package enroute with its Accumulators full of stored Power must, at some selected point and in some selected manner, start applying its energy. That is - be Released. (Study 7-19 and 8-7.)"

Then in 10-24 you'll find six Release types.

So, from the Top the Pivot will transport the Power Package to your chosen Release Point and then employing a Trigger, the 10-20-B Right Arm Throw, your Right Tricep will fire, uncocking the Right Elbow, through Impact into Follow-Through.

Not a dumb question at all. The book will help your understanding considerably.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:59 AM
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When you get your book you'll find this: 7-24. Power Package Release "The Loaded Power Package enroute with its Accumulators full of stored Power must, at some selected point and in some selected manner, start applying its energy. That is - be Released. (Study 7-19 and 8-7.)"

Then in 10-24 you'll find six Release types.

So, from the Top the Pivot will transport the Power Package to your chosen Release Point and then employing a Trigger, the 10-20-B Right Arm Throw, your Right Tricep will fire, uncocking the Right Elbow, through Impact into Follow-Through.

Not a dumb question at all. The book will help your understanding considerably.
To day I started to get more understanding about how to use accumulator,let me explain where Im at,Im taking club to top of b/swing,from there Im pulling trailing elbow into my side(rather quickly) and letting it release from there.
Im still not sure as to where my c/shaft should be pointing at the top of swing (plane line ?),but one step at a time,eh.by the way,Im only hitting 9 iron at this stage.I also dont want to hit too many until I get a better understanding of swing,but already it feels more compact and much better hit. Thanks again...PS cant wait to get my book
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