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Old 02-23-2009, 07:20 AM
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Foot Action 7-17
From here http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2784 and the book

Per 7-17:


"The majority of the weight should be on the heel, and it is better to
turn on one's heel than to roll excessively. Address Position loading of the
Feet is even distribution between both Feet but with enough on the heels to
allow the toes to be lifted up momentarily without altering the distribution
between the toe and heel."

I have been watching Alignment Golf (BTW, if you haven't bought it then do so NOW!). I have only watched the first disc and the start of the second, saw the foot action drills and that was enough for me, a month or two of work right there! Until I get the footwork right I am not working on anything else except for FLW/BRW which is constant training for me.

My foot action has always let me down and I have always felt it is a cause of some of the inconsistencies in my swing. So off I went to the practice net with a 10c piece (we don't have pennies over here!), a rubber tee and about 100 balls. An hour later I am here!

A couple of questions. My right foot hasa tendency to go straight out instead of rolling in, however in being conscious of the ball inside the instep I sometimes kicked my heel towards the middle of the stance to hit the ball, rather than rolling in....not sure what help I want there but just wondering if that is an ok point to go through on the journey to the correct roll...i.e. is it the lesser of two evils.

My left foot has always had a tendency to spin out, which I think has to do with the way the right foot fires too. Anyhow, even when I stopped the spin out my feet felt very restriced (possibly a good thing) and I tended to want to roll to the outside of the left foot with the 10c peice falling off the left side of my foot as I swung. Is this restricted feeling and some extra roll a good thing, or is spinning out a little the better option. Or do I need to stop both.

I know there are options here but if I am going to focus on this I want to do it right. I am aiming for a 10-17-C action.

Any help, advice, general thoughts greatly appreciated.

I should mention a couple of shots where the foot rolled in properly and the 10c didn't move felt super solid into the net, can't wait to see them at the range!
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:09 PM
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You been watching me hit balls recently??
I am coming across the same things that you are as well. Like you I feel that I kick my right heel in so that I move the ball off the tee and am not sure if this is what you are supposed to be doing. As for the penny drill it feels very restrictive for me as well.
Wonder what Lynn will say.
Keep at it mate,
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:21 PM
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I'm remote, but want to be here. Keep the porch light on.

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Old 02-23-2009, 07:21 PM
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I'm remote, but want to be here. Keep the porch light on.



This will be good for a lot of us I bet. Im guessing especially good for those of us from the bygone era of knee drive. Im not losing as many pennies these days thanks to Yoda. A very good thing during these uncertain economic times. No more double anchor. No more Mr Happy Feet. Hello Mr. Hips. Hello McDonald drills. Still have a lot inside the incubator on this though.

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Old 03-10-2009, 08:46 AM
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I'm remote, but want to be here. Keep the porch light on.

Not sure if the globe is blown maybe.

Either way I had one of my better ballstrking rounds a couple of days ago after some footwork practice (still need more). 13 GIR was nice and playing to handicap for the first time in about 6 months was even nicer.

The more I watch pro swings the more I see the roll in rather than the kick up on the rear foot...and the stability of the front foot. Obvious once you are looking for it!
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:03 PM
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Not sure if the globe is blown maybe.

Either way I had one of my better ballstrking rounds a couple of days ago after some footwork practice (still need more). 13 GIR was nice and playing to handicap for the first time in about 6 months was even nicer.

The more I watch pro swings the more I see the roll in rather than the kick up on the rear foot...and the stability of the front foot. Obvious once you are looking for it!


Agreed, I wonder what Yoda was going to say. Of note is his recent comment on Tiger's improved Foot Action, particularly his right foot. Hope he jumps in here to discuss the right foot. After having a blister on my right instep last spring I am still getting up on the toe of my right foot rather fast.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:40 PM
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Not sure if the globe [Yoda's porch light] is blown maybe.

Either way I had one of my better ballstrking rounds a couple of days ago after some footwork practice (still need more). 13 GIR was nice and playing to handicap for the first time in about 6 months was even nicer.

The more I watch pro swings the more I see the roll in rather than the kick up on the rear foot...and the stability of the front foot. Obvious once you are looking for it!
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Agreed, I wonder what Yoda was going to say. Of note is his recent comment on Tiger's improved Foot Action, particularly his right foot. Hope he jumps in here to discuss the right foot. After having a blister on my right instep last spring I am still getting up on the toe of my right foot rather fast.

This is an EXTREMELY important topic. Other than your Hands (and their connection to the Club), what could be more important than your Feet (and their connection to the ground)?

On my way home this afternoon from Cuscowilla, I detoured a bit to the magnificent new University of Georgia Golf Course (#1 Public Course in Georgia) and had the privilege of spending two hours with Jeff Hull, resident UGA Director of Instruction; 2007 Georgia PGA Player of the Year and Georgia Open Champion; and 2008 Georgia PGA Professional Champion. Whenever Jeff calls and wants me to take a look, my immediate 'bells' are that he is one of the true Triple Crown winners of Professional Golf:
1. A great player;

2. A great teacher; and

3. A great clubfitter.
Any one of these skills is sufficient for PGA of America Hall of Fame status -- I take that back, the great Clubfitter remains the unsung hero -- nevertheless, the 3-in-1 Pro's Pro is almost unheard of.

As I walked onto the tee, Jeff told me that he was having swing problems and wanted to sort through each of the 24 Components -- -- and clarify a few things.

We got to exactly two:

The Grip . . . and a Pressure Point question. That was the easy stuff.

Then, the Feet . . . their Address alignment; their Action throughout the Stroke; and the Ball Location in relation to the Stance.

I am convinced that Jeff Hull could stand on his head, grip it backwards and still hit perfect golf shots. But on this day, both he and I agreed that these 'back to Basics' alignments made the work easier.



Each January during his competitive career, the great Jack Nicklaus would go to his teacher, Jack Grout, and say:
"Mr. Grout . . .

Teach me golf."
The work was always mundane: Grip, Stance, Ball Position, the Pivot and Arm Swing. Then, with the Basics re-established, Jack would go forth and dominate golf for yet another year.

Go figure.

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Old 03-10-2009, 11:30 PM
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Somebody call the lab and tell them to stay open....
If Mr Kelley were to have designated pressure points in each foot where would they be located? And how would they load and unload? Im thinking about the weight scale under each foot thing. Not pounds so much as pounds per square inch, pressure (more than mere pounds). With the firm left side extending/straightening in follow through for instance, the left foots pressure points sense more pounds per square inch and the scales needle swings up in weight dramatically. Sort of like a slight pressing with your leg on a scale can cause a reading that is beyond your body weight.

I am so impressed by Mr Kelley's advice to "put your mind in your hands" or pressure points but can sometimes feel my feet sending me messages too. With my mind in my feet (for training purposes only) I'm wondering if conscious foot pressure point awareness can almost automate a weight shift. eg You can get left with a slide of the hips or you can merely anticipate the increased pressure on the left foot causing the whole thing to happen. Turning on hockey skates is sort of like that. You think about loading an edge rather than the actual leaning with your body. You feel the increase in the load for even tighter turns.

Lots of nerve endings in our hands and our feet. One end has a hold on the club the other on terra firma.

What do you guys think? How, where, when do the feet load and unload?

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Old 03-11-2009, 04:01 AM
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I'm probably inspired by what I've read around here and elsewhere, but...

I think from having the weight more or less even distributed on both feet at address, with enough weight toward the heels for the player to be able to lift the toes, the backswing pivot loads pp#5, the inside of the heel on the back foot (~2/3), and pp#6, the inside ball and partially the big toe on the front foot (~1/3).

A line between these 2 pressure points corresponds pretty much to the amount of hip turn, and can be used for direction of the hip bumb/axis tilt for the hitter.

Through the downstroke the pressure shifts gradually until follow through to the opposites on each foot: pp#7, the inside ball and partially the big toe of the back foot (~1/3), and pp#8, the inside of the heel on the front foot (~2/3).

Again a line between these 2 pressure points corresponds more or less to the amount of hip turn (roll).

During the finish swivel going to the finish, the weight comes to rest even distributed on the front foot (~9/10) and on the toes of the back foot (~1/10).


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Old 03-11-2009, 07:51 AM
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Once again I bring up the Wii. Someone needs to develop a golf program for it. The board allows you to monitor where your weight is. It is good for core strength. As I stood on it to do the down hill slalom I realized that shifting my weight to create pressure either toward to front or back of the feet could be great for golf pivot work. The monitoring device with the red dot will show you where that weight is. Anyone else see the usefulness of that device.
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