Many years ago I broke my left arm quite badly. It healed with a quirk and i think this is making swinging with horizontal hinging very difficult for me.
If I lift my left arm stright out in front of me, with my hand in the karate chop position, I can swivel my forearm so that the top of my hand faces the sky, but if I try to go the other way so that the palm faces the sky, I can only get about 1/5th of the way there.
Is my understanding of the H.Hinge motion all wrong and this infact wouldnt be imparring me at all, or should I give it up and switch to hitting?
what you are describing is SWIVEL...not a horizontal hinge.
this is a cut/paste from what Yoda said about the two:
1. Extend your Left Arm directly in front of your Left Shoulder and parallel to the ground (horizontal). Put your Left Hand into a Karate Chop position.
2. Keeping your Left Shoulder and Body stationary, move the Arm back and forth, just like a gate would swing on its hinges. This is a horizontal hinge action.
3. Once again assume the position in #1 above.
4. This time, do not swing your arm back and forth. Instead, keep it still, and twist the forearm. First palm down. Then, palm up. This is a Swivel Action.
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I'm not a TGM or PGA certified Pro, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
now im So do swinges have an extra swivel post impact that hitters do not? can you get away with not being able to swivel in the anti clockwise direstion?
Many years ago I broke my left arm quite badly. It healed with a quirk and i think this is making swinging with horizontal hinging very difficult for me.
If I lift my left arm stright out in front of me, with my hand in the karate chop position, I can swivel my forearm so that the top of my hand faces the sky, but if I try to go the other way so that the palm faces the sky, I can only get about 1/5th of the way there.
Is my understanding of the H.Hinge motion all wrong and this infact wouldnt be imparring me at all, or should I give it up and switch to hitting?
Hinge Action is not the problem, Nevermind. Properly understood -- and allowed to happen -- your Rotating Body will automatically produce the Horizontal Hinge Action you seek (with or without your Left Arm 'quirk').
But...
There may well be a problem with your Swivel Action. To diagnose that problem, I need to see you -- or at least photos or video of you. What visuals can you provide?
With or without those visuals, please answer this question:
After Impact, can you Swivel your Left Palm Upinto a 'gimme five' position?
Yoda I cannot get fully to the "gimme five" position. If (thumb to pinkie) 9o'clock --- 3o'clock is gimme five, i can get to about 10.30 --- 4.30.
Have been reading many threads on turning, rolling, the three swivels and hinging... it's safe to say that there is a fair chunk of incubating to be done by yours truly. Look out for some question in the Basics section in a few days, or weeks, actually dont hold your breath. Ive been reading these forums for a year and am still surrounded by fog.. the snail wins the race right... right <insert desperate looking smilie>
karate chop on the left then as rolled as I can get it
nevermind,
The photo on the left illustrates the Left Wrist in its Vertical Condition. In other words, the back of the Hand would lay flat against a swinging door whose hinge line was at the Left Shoulder. That condition is all that is required -- indeed, it is mandatory for a precision Hinge Action -- during the Impact Interval (from Impact to the Both Arms Straight position). Any appearance of a Roll through Impact is due solely the Body Turn and the Arm Swing as the Wrist remains in its Vertical Condition. Think of it this way: A door rotates in a circle about its hinges, but it remains vertical (perpendicular) to the floor (its horizontal plane of motion).
The photo on the right illustrates the Left Wrist in its Rolled Condition. The arm has not moved and the Wrist has 'twisted' to the left (from its Vertical Condition). This is a Swivel Action, and it is not permissable during Impact. Remember, a hinged door moves in a circle about its hinges...it does not 'twist.'
The Hinge Action maintains the Vertical Left Wrist from Impact to Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight). Then the Swivel Action Snap Rolls the Hands into their 'Palms Parallel to the Plane' position for the Finish. In other words, the Finish Swivel becomes The Bridge between the Follow Through and the Finish.
The good news here is that, despite your injury, the photos reveal that your range of motion is sufficient to accomplish this task.
thats tops! but now what excuse do I have.. must be the equipment
I have some questions thanks to the reponses in this thread, but will post them in a more appropriate "room".. well, when I come up with a semi concise way to ask them
thankyou my little green friend and you too Jim
PS. Doesn't my white white flesh look good enough to fry..mmmmm makes me think of calamari for some reason.
Many years ago I broke my left arm quite badly. It healed with a quirk and i think this is making swinging with horizontal hinging very difficult for me.
If I lift my left arm stright out in front of me, with my hand in the karate chop position, I can swivel my forearm so that the top of my hand faces the sky, but if I try to go the other way so that the palm faces the sky, I can only get about 1/5th of the way there.
Is my understanding of the H.Hinge motion all wrong and this infact wouldnt be imparring me at all, or should I give it up and switch to hitting?
thanks
I have exactly the same issue. I also broke my left arm severely. My range of motion is very simlar to yours. Also, from elbow to middle finger tip, my left arm is about 1 inch shorter than my right.
I have often wondered if this has an impact on my golf stroke.
good lord there's two of us well technically your 1 inch inbalance makes you the greater freak :P ahh but you may be totally alone soon(ish). I have had x-rays taken and will hopefully see a specialist soon to discuss any possible remedies. Luckily I'm not doing it for reasons golf, or I'd look like a fool right about now
So do swinges have an extra swivel post impact that hitters do not? can you get away with not being able to swivel in the anti clockwise direstion?
well technically your 1 inch inbalance makes you the greater freak :P ahh but you may be totally alone soon(ish). I have had x-rays taken and will hopefully see a specialist soon to discuss any possible remedies. Luckily I'm not doing it for reasons golf, or I'd look like a fool right about now 
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