"This involves the Angles of Approach (2-J-3) established by the LEFT-SHOULDER-TO-BALL relationship of the Lever Assemblies."
"If the Ball is struck before Low Point with an upstroke Motion (most obvious with the Putter) disrupting the Clubhead Orbit and the Hinging, then the Ball and the Clubhead Path become circles "exterior" to each other (like two meshing gears)and the line of Compression rotates away and produces a no-spin floater, or Lob Shot. The circle of the ball must be "interior" to the circle of the Clubface orbit and as immoveable as in a spinning centrifuge."
Basing ball positioning off the feet is dangerous, haphazard, and confusing. There is no allowance of a stance which allows for a player to have two seperate low points while using the same stroke. THERE IS NO LOW POINT OF THE FEET.
If it makes us aim better, rock on!!!!! But don't confuse it with low point.
PS- Now we need Lynn to tell us what "circles exterior" to each other are. GO LYNN GO!!!!
"If the Ball is struck before Low Point with an upstroke Motion (most obvious with the Putter) disrupting the Clubhead Orbit and the Hinging, then the Ball and the Clubhead Path become circles "exterior" to each other (like two meshing gears)and the line of Compression rotates away and produces a no-spin floater, or Lob Shot. The circle of the ball must be "interior" to the circle of the Clubface orbit and as immoveable as in a spinning centrifuge."
PS- Now we need Lynn to tell us what "circles exterior" to each other are. GO LYNN GO!!!!
In a true Three-Dimensional Impact (Down, Out and Forward), the circumference of the Ball lies interior to (or "inside") the circumference of the Clubhead orbit. Specifically, the Ball lies interior to the orbit of the Leading Edge of the Clubface. Thus, during Impact, the Clubface and Ball become one unit within the same orbit, welded together at the Point of Compression.
In the Upstroke Motion described above, the circumference of the Ball lies exterior to (or "outside) the circumference of the Clubhead orbit. This means that the Ball will be struck by the Leading Edge itself and cannot be 'trapped' within its orbit. Thus, the Compression Point is lost, and the Ball simply rotates away.
In a true Three-Dimensional Impact (Down, Out and Forward), the circumference of the Ball lies interior to (or "inside") the circumference of the Clubhead orbit. Specifically, the Ball lies interior to the orbit of the Leading Edge of the Clubface. Thus, during Impact, the Clubface and Ball become one unit within the same orbit, welded together at the Point of Compression.
In the Upstroke Motion described above, the circumference of the Ball lies exterior to (or "outside) the circumference of the Clubhead orbit. This means that the Ball will be struck by the Leading Edge itself and cannot be 'trapped' within its orbit. Thus, the Compression Point is lost, and the Ball simply rotates away.
Will the Clubface and Ball be welded together (same Impact and Separation points) during Impact with the uncentered motion of Angled Hinging? What implications, if any, does this have on the interior/exterior argument above?
All strokes have the BACK, UP, and IN... DOWN, OUT, and FORWARD.
How much emphasis should be on the DOWN in PUTTING? I have heard several well known instructors, including Stan Utley, mention that they hit DOWN on their putts.
All strokes have the BACK, UP, and IN... DOWN, OUT, and FORWARD.
How much emphasis should be on the DOWN in PUTTING? I have heard several well known instructors, including Stan Utley, mention that they hit DOWN on their putts.
Lagster,
Did you see VJ's post #17 above? He addresses the 'Down' issue in it.
OK... yes that is good. Sounds like if the ball is played in exactly the correct position in relation to low point, slightly in front of, then a downward strike can be made (without striking the earth after the ball is struck). We obviously do not want DIVOTS in putting.
As far as the "Down" is concerned. In the face on pics the arc of attack shows the correct amount of "Down" in the stroke.
How do you or I practice it without Cameras? Simply get in front of a mirror and "look, look, look" to make certain the putter head is off the ground the same amount on the backstroke and through stroke. By balancing out the length of the stroke and "looking" at top and follow through anyone can learn the proper amount of down. The mirror will cost you something......outside that all you need is your eyes and a putter.
Great Questions!!!!!!Thanks Lynn for the help with the "circles."
In a true Three-Dimensional Impact (Down, Out and Forward), the circumference of the Ball lies interior to (or "inside") the circumference of the Clubhead orbit. Specifically, the Ball lies interior to the orbit of the Leading Edge of the Clubface. Thus, during Impact, the Clubface and Ball become one unit within the same orbit, welded together at the Point of Compression.
In the Upstroke Motion described above, the circumference of the Ball lies exterior to (or "outside) the circumference of the Clubhead orbit. This means that the Ball will be struck by the Leading Edge itself and cannot be 'trapped' within its orbit. Thus, the Compression Point is lost, and the Ball simply rotates away.
Originally Posted by tongzilla
Will the Clubface and Ball be welded together (same Impact and Separation points) during Impact with the uncentered motion of Angled Hinging? What implications, if any, does this have on the interior/exterior argument above?
The uncentered motion of hinge action is a clubFACE issue and the interior/exterior circles are an issue of clubHEAD control.
To the extent that the angled hinge is to a certain extent compression leakage (fade tendency), I would suspect that if there is any related effect of 'exterior circles' in may be amplified leakage. Kind of an apples and oranges issue though (clubhead vs clubface).
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