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Brian, Mac was TGM trained. He would never start the downswing with #1 accumulator. The downswing accumulator sequencing is always 4,1,2,3 - Chuck would agree with that. Ben likes to start the downswing with the rt shoulder moving down on plane but by tilting the shoulders and leaving the hands at the top letting the tilt bring them to release pt.However this just jamms up the # 4 and # 1 accumulators and leaves upper body hanging back. MAC does not use 10-16-C but you are correct with Ben prefering standard knee action. Ben thinks snap loading is more sopisticated, but will work with a players tendencies as to sweep and random loading. SONNY

Sonny,

Have you read my posts on the differences between Swingers and Hitters, especially in their use of the Right Shoulder during the Start Down? Swingers use the Right Shoulder Turn Thrust to 'Crank the Gyroscope' -- of the essentially inert Left Arm and its trailing Club -- and begin the On Plane acceleration toward Impact. Hitters, on the other hand, use it as the 'backstop' from which to Launch the Driving Right Arm and its Active Pushing -- of the entire Left Arm / Clubshaft unit -- toward Impact.

What Mac and his followers have 'discovered' is 12-1-0 -- Hitting and its Muscularly-Driven (Active) Clubhead Lag -- not a 'fatal flaw' in 12-2-0 -- Swinging and its Centrifugally-driven (Passive) Clubhead Lag.