Was Homer Wrong?

[birdie_man]

Interesting thread over at Iseek....

Here's the last post on page 15:

"After much effort I think it is safe to say that the centrifugal powered swing
and endless belt have been laid to rest. Next target is the red herring of
swinging v hitting. That one will take a long time to die.

This discussion has a long way to go yet!

The eventual target? A sound basis for interested
golfers to understand what actually happens
in a golf swing. By stripping away the misconceptions
from TGM theory we should discover the truths it
holds. That's not too much to ask is it?"

http://www.iseekgolf.com/forums/inde...#ent ry213596

[Mathew]

Interesting thread over at Iseek....

Here's the last post on page 15:

"After much effort I think it is safe to say that the centrifugal powered swing
and endless belt have been laid to rest. Next target is the red herring of
swinging v hitting. That one will take a long time to die.

This discussion has a long way to go yet!

The eventual target? A sound basis for interested
golfers to understand what actually happens
in a golf swing. By stripping away the misconceptions
from TGM theory we should discover the truths it
holds. That's not too much to ask is it?"

http://www.iseekgolf.com/forums/inde...#ent ry213596

"Centrifugal powered swing" - come on

People should study to understand prior to giving critique towards anything....

[birdie_man]

Word.

There's like 15 pages of this debate on iseek...

I was into it but am not too into it anymore.

[comdpa]

http://www.iseekgolf.com/forums/inde...&gopid=213692&

Just told them off...

Sorry, I am not usually like this, but I think enough is enough.

Who gives a dang about semantics if the idea conveyed works???

I don't mind being called a Slinger, Whinger, Pinger, Plonker, whatever as long as I am carrying the darned thing 300.

[Daryl]

http://www.iseekgolf.com/forums/inde...&gopid=213692&

Just told them off...

Sorry, I am not usually like this, but I think enough is enough.

Who gives a dang about semantics if the idea conveyed works???

I don't mind being called a Slinger, Whinger, Pinger, Plonker, whatever as long as I am carrying the darned thing 300.

Very few people from Oz have the Book and fewer have access to qualified AI instructors. If some of them want to cut their own way through the Forest then let them. Wish them luck and ask to see their work following publication. Golf history is a history of individual effort. Most that have improved on their own, create their own theories and boast their way (their Pattern) as THE Way. Some have become Great Golfers. But don't be misled: When you can't see the forest through the trees it's an effort born with setbacks and hardship, and lasts all men their lifetimes. Our efforts to improve are founded on the Three Imperatives of TGM; a promising beginning.

So get yourself a pair of 3X reading glasses because that's what you'll need when Vman publishes his Work. It may be a nice addition to the Collection.

[Toolish]

Very few people from Oz have the Book and fewer have access to qualified AI instructors.

There are a few of us from the land down under with the book, and I think there are about 5 AI's in the country. Considering the size of the population we are travelling ok, hopefully things will take off soon though!!

[birdie_man]

I think it's important that the stuff in TGM is right...

However small a detail.....however little (or NOT AT ALL even) it will help people play better....

Might as well.

Dunno exactly where they're at in this discussion....the posts started getting really long and complex....terms....physics.....equations...etc.

...

Comdpa man...

They may be trying to discredit (fix?) a small small part of TGM....

Dunno if it has a motive behind it.....I don't think so.....a few of these guys are into TGM for the most part....

Don't worry....

They couldn't take away from TGM much if they tried anyway.

[Martee]

Interesting Title to this Post...

To be honest, trying to get through 16 pages and understand the positions/arguement, well that is more than I am up for. So I asked for a summary, probably won't get it but we will see.

Just an observation, over the years that I have been visiting TGM related forums, there are those who will say the Homer got everything right. They will toss out that it has been reviewed by engineers and scientists. Unfortunately I have never met anyone who has these reviews and I have requested them.

Homer did 7 editions, and there have been changes. Was what was changed for the better? Was it to correct something? I don't have all the editions so I can't say.

Then we do have those who have at best done a cursory read and do not a complete understanding and will argue that it is full of errors.

It would really be nice to have Homer here to ask a few questions. He did have one problem, he often thought things were so obvious that they didn't need to be addressed, I heard some of his changes he made in later editions were to correct this oversight, not that the material was incorrect, just not obvious to everyone.

[lagster]

Mr. Kelley, for the most part, invented his own golf language. Much of the golf world now uses his terms, probably without knowing where they came from... LAG, LOADING, THROWAWAY, HITTERS vs. SWINGERS, ETC..

He worked on TGM for over 40 years, and was still working on it at the end.

There probably is MORE that can be learned, but Mr. Kelley gave it quite an effort.

[Daryl]

These discussions will continue for a long time. The more I read and the more I'm taught the components, then the better I swing and play. There is more to HK than a lifetime can apply, and there is more to Golf than a single book can describe. I'm happy with the path that I've chosen and my knowledge of the Golf swing that I've acquired from HK and this forum and its members and other TGM people. The progress is slow but sure and I believe I've chosen correctly. The sound of ball compression and lower scores are proof enough for me. But, there is a place for doubt and re-evaluation, but after all of that, I'm still here.