#11 07-14-2006, 07:22 PM Burner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: England Posts: 626 Unlike the letter "T" (or your pen example) the shoulders, horizontal bar, do not move in unison around the spine, vertical bar. The shoulders work independant of each other and are not mutually synchronous. __________________ IB "My only handicap is me!!!" Burner View Public Profile Send a private message to Burner Find all posts by Burner