Short pitching and chipping 10-3-C

[12 piece bucket]

Originally Posted by wanole

this seems all good for chipping pitch and runs out of a good lie, but do you use the same technique on shots over a bunker off a tight lie? How do you take the club back far enough with the elbow going up plane?

When Yoda and Luke first gave me this shot, they had me do it over a bunker with a thin tight lie.

Freeze your right wrist and put extensor action and #1 pressure point in place at address and keep it there.If you lose pressure you lose the shot.
Focus is on right forearm action.
Keep the ball between your wrist and your elbow.

This shot is also good from long grass close to the green.
Your right forearm action is up the plane going through your waist and straight down the same steep line.

Longer shots ...use longer club.

Doug,

Could you please expand on this?

Keep the ball between your wrist and your elbow.

I found this interesting. How does this work?

Thanks!

Bucket

[Richw]

10-3-C is my short game savior. I've been a reasonable short game player but this has given me MUCH more confidence when scrambling.

Example: I played a course yesterday called Point Roberts Golf Club, which is known for it's lightning fast and SMALL greens. Needless to say if your not striking it well, you'll be playing alot of green side chips. My new driver was been giving me fits, as it was the second round with it and I was generally just not feeling my swing. I lost 4 balls into the woods/water yesterday and still managed to shoot 83. Why? 10-3-C

[dclaryjr]

I got a chance to get out on the course after work today. I was a single so I played a couple balls and basically made it an on-course practice session. Although I haven't had a chance to practice this on the range at all, I tried using the PUSH for some short game shots. I pulled off a few nice ones but I also bladed and chunked a few. I'm looking forward to Dayllight Savings Time and a change to actually practice again!!

BTW, this is a prcdedure begging for a video!!

[pshr]

Someone above posted: "keep the ball between your wrist and elbow".
I do not see how this works, and neither does Bucket. 10-3-C says the Push procedure keeps the Hands always between the Elbow and the Ball.
This works like a charm. Thanks to all for this website....it is The Best. pshr

[jim_0068]

I got a chance to get out on the course after work today. I was a single so I played a couple balls and basically made it an on-course practice session. Although I haven't had a chance to practice this on the range at all, I tried using the PUSH for some short game shots. I pulled off a few nice ones but I also bladed and chunked a few. I'm looking forward to Dayllight Savings Time and a change to actually practice again!!

BTW, this is a prcdedure begging for a video!!

That's because you lost the bend in the right wrist somewhere around impact and you lost the down cuz the clubhead starting passing your hands.

This is why when i help people i help them learn a swinging chip/pitch procedure before they learn the hit. Why? Because from the karate chop swing impact they learn the flat left wrist and don't realize at the same time they are learning the bent right.

So once the flat left wrist karate chop motion is perfected i just help them switch it around and its usually not too hard.

I think i should post my whole technique that i gave 8cork.

[Yoda]

I think i should post my whole technique that i gave 8cork.

Please do, Jim. I, for one, would like to see it, and I'm sure the membership would as well.

[Martee]

Originally Posted by jim_0068

I think i should post my whole technique that i gave 8cork.

Please do, Jim. I, for one, would like to see it, and I'm sure the membership would as well.

I would second that....

[jim_0068]

Originally Posted by jim_0068

I think i should post my whole technique that i gave 8cork.

Please do, Jim. I, for one, would like to see it, and I'm sure the membership would as well.

No problem....i'd just like to get permission from 8cork if i can post part of his PM he sent me because it will simplify some things and help demonstrate what are some of the main problems i see when people chip/pitch.

However it will be over the weekend because i'm busy at work and can't take the time i want.

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Also for those interested in more chipping stuff, go to www.brianmanzella.com and check out his "audio answers" section and there should be a post about the short game by "wanole" and brian gave a very good audio answer on how to learn a true swinging chip/pitch technique.

[Sbark]

Someone above posted: "keep the ball between your wrist and elbow".
I do not see how this works, and neither does Bucket. 10-3-C says the Push procedure keeps the Hands always between the Elbow and the Ball.
This works like a charm. Thanks to all for this website....it is The Best. pshr

my question also.........opened my Yellow book to p. 142....and got the answer....

"from an up and out elbow position (flying w/be my descrip), which leaves the hands always between the Elbow and the ball (or plane line)"

---key point is: a line going from the ball up to elbow, the hands w/be inbetween that angled, upward line

......not between 2 horiz points, but in line between to angled upward points........pic in book shows very well.

feel free to correct me if i'm in left feild

[Doug]

Originally Posted by pshr

Someone above posted: "keep the ball between your wrist and elbow". I do not see how this works, and neither does Bucket. 10-3-C says the Push procedure keeps the Hands always between the Elbow and the Ball. This works like a charm. Thanks to all for this website....it is The Best. pshr

my question also.........opened my Yellow book to p. 142....and got the answer....

"from an up and out elbow position (flying w/be my descrip), which leaves the hands always between the Elbow and the ball (or plane line)"

---key point is: a line going from the ball up to elbow, the hands w/be inbetween that angled, upward line

......not between 2 horiz points, but in line between to angled upward points........pic in book shows very well.

feel free to correct me if i'm in left feild

You are correct. Straight up and down the plane going through the waist, like a piston.

In order to get enough travel in your piston, you need to bend at the waist more the normal.