2 Sides of a Coin?

[12 piece bucket]

Homer said "Hands", page 41 (6th). I'm being more specific.

See 10-2-G . . . Except with a “True” Swing (6-B-3-0) where Centrifugal Force will produce the “geometric” Flat Left Wrist when there is actually a “visual” Bent Left Wrist. That is, the Clubshaft and the Left Arm are in a straight line per 6-B-3-0 and 2-K regardless of the Left Wrist Position

[Daryl]

Bucket,

Nice writing. As soon as I uncover your point, I'll understand how it fits into this discussion.

[Daryl]

I’m cataloging unresolved issues throughout the book. Thank you for your input, however the "Geometric Flat Left Wrist" has been documented prior to this discussion.

This discussion is concerned with the issues pertinent to whether or not the "Angular Speed (RPM) of the Clubhead is identical to that of the Hands" due to the Mandatory Flat Left Wrist or rather the Bent Right Wrist.

Philly and I have already reached a conclusion.

[12 piece bucket]

Bucket,

Nice writing. As soon as I uncover your point, I'll understand how it fits into this discussion.

Ooooookeeeedoooookeeee . . ..

The Flat Left Wrist has the status of IMPERATIVE . . .

BUT and this is a big ole but (oh yeah) . . . the Flat Left Wrist is rooted in the Flail . . . and so it has to do with geometry and the relation is the left arm and the clubshaft(head) . . . so depending on how you attach your paws to the club . . . you may be Geometrically Flat but not anatomically Flat (Fred Couples . . . Sergio Garcia) satisfying the Imperative beautifully.

The Bent and Level Right Wrist IS NOT an Imperative right?

Why would you say that it doesn't achieve that status?

Holla back!

[Daryl]

Ooooookeeeedoooookeeee . . ..

The Flat Left Wrist has the status of IMPERATIVE . . .

BUT and this is a big ole but (oh yeah) . . . the Flat Left Wrist is rooted in the Flail . . . and so it has to do with geometry and the relation is the left arm and the clubshaft(head) . . . so depending on how you attach your paws to the club . . . you may be Geometrically Flat but not anatomically Flat (Fred Couples . . . Sergio Garcia) satisfying the Imperative beautifully.

The Bent and Level Right Wrist IS NOT an Imperative right?

Why would you say that it doesn't achieve that status?

Holla back!

You keep saying that the Flat left Wrist is rooted in the “Flail”. That is incorrect. The Flat Left Wrist is rooted in the “Lever”. A lever exists whether the Left Wrist is Visually Flat or by definition, Geometrically Flat.

The Flat Left Wrist has IMPERATIVE Status only at Impact regardless of Grip To Plane, because "If and Only If" the Flat Left Wrist Exists can a Lever Exist.

The Bent Right Wrist would be a Corollary Imperative if the Flat Left Wrist is an Imperative. The Bent Right Wrist may be the Imperative. "?"

[Daryl]

If the Flat Left Wrist cannot result in the same RPM under all conditions, but the Bent Right Wrist can result in the Clubhead and Hands having the same RPM’s, then …”?”

With 10-2-D, the Flat Left Wrist cannot resolve the RPM issue. But the Bent Right Wrist can…”?”

SO, I'm documenting this as an unresolved issue.

[12 piece bucket]

You keep saying that the Flat left Wrist is rooted in the “Flail”. That is incorrect. The Flat Left Wrist is rooted in the “Lever”. A lever exists whether the Left Wrist is Visually Flat or by definition, Geometrically Flat.

The Flat Left Wrist has IMPERATIVE Status only at Impact regardless of Grip To Plane, because "If and Only If" the Flat Left Wrist Exists can a Lever Exist.

The Bent Right Wrist would be a Corollary Imperative if the Flat Left Wrist is an Imperative. The Bent Right Wrist may be the Imperative. "?"

Ahhhh . .. but wait a second my studious friend . . .

even if it is bent before impact . . . IT STILL MEETS THE DEFINITION OF A LEVER . . .because you still have the Secondary Lever so the principle is still there . .. maybe not for full power shots . . . but very useful for short game shots and lob shots.

Remember Homer didn't operate in degrees . . . Flat (or In Line) is Flat every single time and can be visually ascertained . . . Bent on the other hand becomes a matter of degrees . . .how much Bent? . . . enough to be Flat . . .

AND . . . How's about this here?


We have

1. Flat Left Wrist
2. Clubhead Lag Pressure Point
3. Straight Plane Line

but NO BENT RIGHT WRIST.

And the whole Horizontal Hinge Swinging that you soooo got the hotts for.

[12 piece bucket]

If the Flat Left Wrist cannot result in the same RPM under all conditions, but the Bent Right Wrist can result in the Clubhead and Hands having the same RPM’s, then …”?”

The Geometric Basis of Flat (In Line) CAN result in the same RPM under all conditions . . .

With 10-2-D, the Flat Left Wrist cannot resolve the RPM issue. But the Bent Right Wrist can…”?”

Naw sir . . . the radius is the left arm and club . . .unless Right Arm Swinging or so flickdid arched that the left wrist becomes the center of the stroke.

SO, I'm documenting this as an unresolved issue.

There could be some unresolved issues for Mr. K . . . but this ain't the spot.

[Yoda]

. . . How's about this here?


We have

1. Flat Left Wrist
2. Clubhead Lag Pressure Point
3. Straight Plane Line

but NO BENT RIGHT WRIST.

Thanks for posting this, Bucket. This is the ad absurdum photo -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum -- so often used to refute the Ideal Impact Alignments -- Flat Left / Bent Right -- of the The Golfing Machine. Yet, only the selfsame work can explain it!

As you have.

[Daryl]

The concept of "Straightness" isn't important to the Lever but the concept of "Rigidity" applies. The Club and Left Arm must travel together. Extensor Action for Hitters, does what CF does for Swingers. EA offers other benefits, but that's another discussion.