The two sides of the coin

[EdZ]

A question via PM that I wanted to share. This may help some of you 'see' the differences between hitters and swingers.


quote:
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Hitters and Manipulated Hands Swingers play the Ball back (of
Straightaway Flight Location) for Draws and forward for Fades. With
the Left Wrist positioned Flat, Level and Vertical, the Club is rotated
within the Grip -- Closed for Draws and Opened for Fades -- to agree
with the new Ball Location. A Ball placed back in the Stance will Draw
because the Clubface makes contact with the Outside Aft quadrant of
the Ball. A Ball placed forward in the Stance will Fade because the
Clubface makes contact with the Inside Aft Quadrant.
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I just don't understand that last sentence.
Here is what I think: whether you're a manipulated hands swinger, hitter, or swinger, or whatever, the clubface ALWAYS goes from open to square to closed, not the other way round.
So, lets say you were hitting the ball perfectly straight, and you're a hitter/manipulated hands swinger, then according to yoda, you would place ball back to draw. But wouldn't placing the ball back mean that the clubface would be more OPEN at that point? So it will contact the inside aft quadrant of the ball? So you will actually fade the ball?

Thanks,

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A swinger moves the club open (leading edge 'on plane') in the takeaway, with the startup swivel (roll to 'toe up').

A hitter keeps the leading edge 'perpendicular' to the plane in the takeaway, toe about 45 degrees.

So while a swinger's clubFACE opens and closes like a gate hung from the left shoulder, so that it stays 'on the plane' above hip high back and through above hip high, a hitter's clubFACE stays as perpendicular to the plane as possible back and through. So even though it isn't really a 'closed to open' movement, a hitters move is fairly close to that. Trying to stay 'square' to the arc, unlike the swinger who rolls back onto the plane, and through to the plane - 90 degrees back, 180 through.

Given that closed to open motion, the farther back a hitter has the ball, the more closed the clubface. A swinger is the opposite, the farther back the swinger has the ball, the more open the clubface.


The geometry (of the line of compression) is the same at impact, but how you get there (the physics) is different.

Two sides of the same coin. You either come at 'ideal' from one side (open to closed - swinger), or from the other (closed to open - hitter).

Angled hinge is attempting to stay on the 'ideal' from a geometry standpoint, however the clubs design is such that the leading edge wants to move 'on the plane'.

You either go with physics, and 'let' things happen, or you go with geometry and 'make' things happen. There are advantages and disadvantags to both.

That 'thing' is the line of compression - the force you are putting 'through' the ball, the nail you drive through the inside back corner.

Take a look at the diagrams in chapter 2. It may also be helpful to reflect on hitting a cue ball at different points on the ball. Think of the cue stick as the 'line of compression' as you hit different parts of the cue ball and note the forces/spin you impart.

Hope this helps - EdZ