How does the position of the right shoulder at address compare with the impact position?
thinking that they are one and the same, or it would be impossible to have the same right elbow bend and forearm positions at both intervals. (ready to get set straight)
with the right shoulder closer to the ball at impact (compared to address) how do I get the right forearm and shaft on the same plane as they were at address?
still not clear I know .. a pic of someone with the onplane right forearm at address and impact, where that plane angle has not changed, would shut me up..
Don't take notice of me, i'm just thinking aloud before the real experts come back The way i understand it unless you start the forearm onplane it shouldn't go back to address position, it should line up with the shaft plane thru impact. I'll wait for the tech guru's to explain it further
If the right shoulder is further down plane at impact, then how do I get the same (right forearm/shaft) plane at address and impact?
1. Setting the Right Forearm On Plane at Address does not require an On Plane Shoulder at Address.
RWH,
Your posts rock! Class is in session. Do you set your Right Forearm on plane at address? I thought I was doing this correctly but Yoda showed me that I wasn't even close. By having the Right Forearm too high at address, it was easier for my Right Forearm to move through the impact interval too high. Thus hitting some low pull hooks.
I have noticed that most of the PGA guys however do not have an on plane Right Forearm at set up. Wonder why? Seems like if that's where you want to be through the ball, then why not start there?
I did notice last night that Lee Buck and AP seemed to have their Right Forearm closer to being 'on plane' than the young guys. Who's to argue with these two.
This was a point of confusion for me for a long time. The right forearm is on plane from impact fix through address, into startup until the butt of the club and clubhead switch ends, or until the right forearm is no longer pointing at the base of the plane. On the downswing, it gets back on plane in the reverse of the above into follow through.
On the backstroke, the right forearm may adjust and shift to the downstroke plane and it will trace that plane via the number 3 pressure point until one again it get back to pointing at the base of the plane.
This always occurs when the right forearm goes just past parallel to the ground either on the backstroke or downstroke.
I have a great video of this if I could just get all the tools together to rip the DVD and decode the AC3 into a .wav file, cut the frames, then mux the mpg2 and wav back into a wmv file...
rwh are those models tgm correct? looks like a lot of axis tilt going on and not much right shoulder moving downplane.
fight the frustration and answer me "one" more question , i think im getting closer. when talking about moving down the turned shoulder plane, we're talking about only the right shoulder and the sweetspot, not the forearm/shaft? I think thats where most of my fog was being created.
So for a zero plane shift, the right shoulder and sweetpot will work up and down the turned shoulder plane (preferably), and the forearm/shaft will work up and down their own (elbow?) plane..?
1. On what plane? if the sweetspot and right shoulder are coming down the turned shoulder plane, how can the forearm and shaft also be on that plane at impact without a striaght right arm?
2. thanks for clearing that up. so even in a zero shift swing the right shoulder shifts planes
3. again on which plane?
sorry for the newbie questions, but hey, this is the basics section
.. a pic of someone with the onplane right forearm at address and impact, where that plane angle has not changed, would shut me up..
The way i understand it unless you start the forearm onplane it shouldn't go back to address position, it should line up with the shaft plane thru impact. I'll wait for the tech guru's to explain it further 
, i think im getting closer. when talking about moving down the turned shoulder plane, we're talking about only the right shoulder and the sweetspot, not the forearm/shaft? I think thats where most of my fog was being created.
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