Agree completely, colleges kick people out for not citing sources.

Off topic first..

1. I don't believe many golf instructors/coaches, etc actually quote or attempt to quote verbatim. Therefore I am not sure they are obligated or required to name sources.

2. Most of the time golf instructors/coaches, etc reference another instructor, it seem to me that they are doing it to gain creditability in what they saying themselves.

3. With all the documentation in existence in golf and all the exposure one recieves, often it is multiple sources that the information is from as well as only the parts that they have adopted usually through testing. In this process they merge it into what they already have.

Just something for others to think about.

As for Yoda's works and those who have put the countless hours in on this board as well as off, doing vid clips, etc. I can only say that it amazing what is so freely given. The dowels were unique IMO, in fact the first time I was introduce to them, I thought this was a bit different. I had before Yoda used one for the practice station, alignment, but had no idea the benefits that could be had from them. Beyond the plane line alignment, we discover a whole new world of alignments and drills that allow you to build a solid G.O.L.F stroke.

Heck Yoda has these laying around in everyroom in house, well except the bathroom.

Surfing a number of golf sites, IMO this the tops when it comes to golf knowledge and instruction.

Thank You Yoda

Thanks to Team LBG for a great site.....

Getting to be a top dog, a known top 100 instructor is cut throat for some. I think it would suck big time to see some one pop up on Academy Live with dowels and worked the Incline Plane and Impact Fix or if they started to speak specific TGM concepts and receive credit as if it was their work. It will happen.

Hall recited almost verbatim the lawful obedience of a struck ball that veered into the water that Homer wrote about. No biggie here but as I said- the book seems to be a source that many instructors think nobody else knows of.

And Evershed papered one of his walls with an eight foot page from The Golfing Machine and read it directly. No problem given Hogan credit when he stepped over to that papered wall from Hogan’s book. Why not Homer? I know Evershed respects the guy but he seems to hide him from view.

Obscurity is not in the best interest of TGM. It has come a long way since the early internet forums, 8 or 9n yrs ago. The internet and TGM are perfect together.

Learning From Yoda -- Up Close And Personal
 

Martin Hall, GSEM, is a true professional doing an outstanding job educating all who would listen on The Golf Channel, in his Golf Magazine articles and in his books for the PGA TOUR. He is an Instructor's Instructor, and I am proud to know him.

At the same time, he has not learned from me just "via the Internet."

He was my student for three days at my 'comeback' Workshop...

Secrets of the Golfing Machine with Chuck Evans.

PGA TOUR Academy.

April 2004.

:)

I don't want to get into defending these other people...but exactly what is in TGM was new that hadn't been spoke before.

Granted Homer cataloged and named/renamed a number of items, but with out any credit by Homer to his sources, one might wonder why and or who?

I just picked up a book, dated 1941, the first place I open too, totally random was a diagram showing the Hula Dancer..there were other references which you can find in TGM. I can name a number of items that I have come across in other publications. E. Jones and pen knife and rag (the rope), etc. That in no way IMO takes away from TGM.

Do not take this in anyway to put down TGM. It is just that unless you quote it exactly, I don't see that the person has necessarily done anything wrong.

Now I posted in another thread what disturbs me the most is that version 7 is the last of Homer's works. It ends there. Now it is on those who have adopted TGM to pick up the torch and go forward. Yoda certainly has done that IMO. TGM LLC effort to train more AI is also an effort. But to be honest until we get Leadbetter to stand up and say 'This is great stuff', every instructor should read it and then some other's , I fear that TGM is destine to be a 3rd class citizen in the golf regarding acknowledgment. What we need is Yoda's best seller on Golf, G.O.L.F and TGM, but I fear that may not be possible if TGM LLC claims copyright/trademark, etc.

But for a few of us, which is growing in numbers, we are fortunate to have this site...

Words Written...Words Spoken
 

6b,

:) Check the book. The quote you attribute to Homer Kelley? It ain't there.

And yet he said it, and Martin Hall, GSEM, correctly quoted it.

How do we know he said it?

Because it is in the taped record of his words to my 1982 GSEM Class.

Homer Kelley's book is wondrous, but his essence is in his own words.

And how have those who were not in that class come to know these wonderful words?

Because one of us -- whose dimestore recorder was running throughout that class -- felt it was important to reveal them to the rest of us.

And now, via my Academies, private students, international professional presentations and the Internet, the world knows.

Homer Kelley's dream was to bring the fruit of his 40 years of research 'mainstream.'

In his absentia, I am proud to help make it happen.

Read Homer Kelley.

Read LynnBlakeGolf.com.

Read the most precise instruction in The Game.

The Challenge
 

Thanks, Martee... For your past support of LBG and for your everpresent friendship. You have been there from 'the beginning,' and I cannot tell you how much that has meant to me.

Now, in your support, you have thrown the gauntlet.

And I have picked it up.

You cannot believe its weight.

Without Lynn....
 

I would not be were I am right now, a GSEB. As I have said on another thread; Thank you for coming to Sweden.

But at the same time I would like to take the chance of thanking Henning Lundstrom, GSEM, who was the one who invited you and have been my support here at home.

Now,

What I would like to know is If, and if so, what is the problem with home office!

Going the class, we STRICTLY did it by the book, ie, Homers word. Without any personal preferences or opinion.

As I see it, all of us who go by the book, complement each other, and do carry on Homers word.

I think Henning did his bachelor 6 years ago and he was all alone here, now we are 4 AI`s and the word WILL be spread around.

And lastly:

Lynn - muchas gracias por tu generosidad!!!!:salut:

Henning Lundstrom -- Sweden's Iron Man
 

Javier,

Henning Lundstrom, GSEM, made Sweden happen for the 2006 Sweden PGA Teaching and Coaching Summit, for you and for me.

He and I have spent many hours together -- both in your country and mine -- and we have learned from each other. He is the 2006 PGA Teacher of the Year in his own Section -- the largest in Sweden -- and one of Europe's great leaders in TGM.

There is much yet to be done.

I am proud to call him my friend.

And i will second the "gauntlet" :)