[quote=Mike O;93517]I think I understand your question but I'm not 100% sure.
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Let's use your original example it will clear the fog. I will be more exacting in my description. The 5* part I get, anything beyond that is the machine, yes?

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Bumpy

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Words that were clear to me: "inside quadrant", "hip", he might have said "align".

Bumpy

[quote=Bumpy;93518]Regarding your photo/attachment in regard to what I am talking about - 5 degrees DEFINITELY NOT - 95 degrees would be the correct answer in regards to your attachment - and referencing my post. 90 degrees would be a square clubface and no one would have a 5 degree clubface - in reference to your attached drawing. The force through the center of mass would create say 95 degrees but never anything close to the 5 degreee.

In regards to your comment/question:
"The 5* part I get, anything beyond that is the machine, yes?"I have know idea what you are referencing.

Originally Posted by Mike O:

.........for instance if you just had a golf club swinging around a centered rotating pole - attached by a rope say and moving fast enough where the shaft was parallel to the ground - then based on the way they construct golf clubs - you would always have the face closed to the motion of the clubhead at any time.........

This issue of CF aligning the clubface relates to Homer's "Hookface" definition.

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Last question before I file this away. Make any difference if the plane is angled or vertical?

Bumpy

No -
Just used parallel to the ground for simplicity - easy visualization for the example.

The swivel.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ght=separation

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The True Swinger allows Centrifugal Force to align for Impact all three Functions of the Club, i.e., the Clubhead, the Clubshaft and the Clubface.

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Yoda

I read more into it than there is.

Bumpy

In regard to face manipulation only (leaving aside clubhead and shaft manipulation). The farmers flail has the two pieces of wood attached by a string like piece of leather . If the golf shaft were made of string no manipulation of the face would be possible right. Now consider the golfers hands, the connection between the handle and the arms, as being string like.

Whoa didn't I say that Cf aligned the clubface ? There's an echo

Indeed, CF aligns the face for impact, the amount of 'hookface' must be accounted for.

Bumpy