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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe

Nothing could be further from the truth! Watching a good player getting instruction gives you absolutely NO CLUE what that player is really DOING, because the proper physics is already there.

And, that student of Ben's wasn't refusing to be taught - he was trying hard to perform the solution he was given, that of aiming point, but it only made him flip worse - he wasn't being given the correct actionable drills/images which would have produced the desired result.

Joe,

I'm truly interested in what you would prescribe for the guy in Ben's video. I ask because I truly would like to know. I know that you have issue with "hands controlling" the pivot. I respect your knowledge of the golf swing and of the Yellow Book. Many of your posts have been very helpful to me.

Would you mind expanding little more about how you would have handled the student in Ben's clips? What type of drills or images would you prescribe to a flipper/hacker?

There certainly are many ways to skin a cat.

Thanks and regards,

Bucket

Thanks Great Footage

I personally gained much insight into how key, the shorter strokes are to building your swing. I have found it easy to discern a problem by going back to Acquired or Basic from Total swing.

The part I had a question about was Yoda's reference tgo 12-3-0 and the Mechanical Checklist and how to use it to check critical alignments (wrists vertical, etc).

Could someone elaborate on how to use TGM to determine critical alignments for each part of the total swing. One example should suffice (don't do the entire swing).

To be sure, I am no expert on TGM but I have been through the book many times (and before you ask, Yes, I followed the reading structure outline on page x). I tend to carry it around with me and find time to go back and reread many parts over and over but I do find this forum and Chuck's with videos do help clear up the fog.

Kevin

Thomas Edison knew 1800 ways not to build a light bulb

The Tip Of The Iceberg

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe

Sounds like there is no video of the initial encounters...

To the contrary, Collin's dad, Cal, taped the entire two days. In fact, the only reason I've got this tape is because his battery ran out, and we used my camera for the last segment. I forgot to give the tape to him before they left and have just now re-located it.

I thought LBG members might enjoy the experience (and perhaps learn from it). So, before sending it along to Team Neeman, I asked Collin if we could put it up on the site. He gave his permission, Bagger worked his magic and -- voila'! -- members have a front row seat to our very special time together.

MJ

When I visited Yoda, you and he did identify a large number of faults. HOWEVER rather than focusing on each fault, Yoda explain to me that in getting myself into the proper alignment that a number of these faults should and would probably disappear.

Working the basic motion then the acquired and achieving correct results eliminated improper techniques.

The drills for the basic and acquired which most are in the book in one form or another.

When we go to full motion, Yoda noted that most of the faults noted were no longer an issue, yet we didn't focus on the faults, we focus on the alignments for the most part.

During each step of the way we discussed the book by reference and the whys and what fors.

What I discovered that in my case I could start a stroke and stop it, cause I knew it was wrong. Yoda got me to get the correct mechanics to produce the feel.

Once and awhile an old habit would show up and usually I could identify it and know why, even though we didn't tag each fault to a step in the teaching Yoda did. What I learned was that my old habit prevented me from achieving what I needed to be correct.

I saw alot of this in the vid clips in this series, when the student was either going to perform a particular stroke or had failed to perform the particular stroke, Yoda would ask questions, pointed questions and the student would respond.

To put it simple Yoda with me and I assume he does this with most students is to build. Start with what the golf stroke is and go step by step forward while the student begins to master it.

Not sure what you are looking for, the wrap up provided in these clips I will bet all are just that, a wrap up, whereas in the hours and day before there was more balls being hit, more drills, etc. There is a lot of information contained within these clips that can be drawn back to the book, chapter, section and paragraph IMO.

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

I would have him grip down on the shaft of a mid-iron and secure the grip to the inside of the left forearm with a velcro strap. Have him hit pitch shots with the pivot only, making sure he doesn't push with the right tricep. After he gets the hang of it, have him hit little pitch shots off the ground with a driver, gripping it normally.

Like everything else in our Gallery except the Tomasello series, this is reality TV folks. Unstaged and not filmed up front as a marketing piece. I spend most of my working life creating concepts for high tech products, and then spending half a year or more to launch them. I understand the product marketing process. What you have on this site is everyday stuff, what I like to call Reality TV. In my personal calls with Lynn, he regularly tells me stories about 20 and 30 HC folks who have come to him after years of struggle and leave fixed...for good...some in tears...and that is what really motivates Lynn.

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Originally Posted by Yoda

I look forward to this - thanks very much.

I think the video was instructive to show the basic motion to acquired motion and some different hinge actions....etc.The swivels were nice too...... I would like to also see swing faults and soloutions to those faults.
So I see Joe's point about having a 20 HCP on video and watching what it takes to get the three imperatives. What was joe saying about that velcro strap on.........LOL=;
only kidding Mizuno..........[-o<

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe

When You Wish Upon A Star

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe

I look forward to this...

Sorry for any additional confusion, Joe. I merely answered your post and said that, though we only posted the one tape left in my camera, we did tape the entire two days. There is no plan at this time to put up the entire two days.

Thinking about it, though...

Maybe such a video -- and others like it -- would be interesting to Members as Subscription-based Premium Content? Hmmm...

The good news is that your Flipper Wish has been granted and will be up in the next week or so.

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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe

You want it, MJ? Okay, you got it! :D

I had just such an encounter Saturday a week ago with Vickie Lake. LBG Members know Vickie as moderator on our Fit For G.O.L.F. Forum. She is also a trainer and physical therapist with many golf clients. Nevertheless, she herself is an absolute beginner at the game.

At my request, she did attend (as a Special Invitee) the Pine Needles Workshop last summer. The goal was to help her understand the alignments of our system so that she would be better able to custom a fitness regimen for our students. She told me then she wanted to learn how to play golf -- mainly to enable her to better serve her clients through a personal experience of the movement -- but we both knew that my attention had to be on our students. Thus, I was not able to work with her there.

Well, fast forward about a year, and she is now my personal fitness guru. For months now, I've been pressing her to get together with me and learn how to swing a Golf Club. Finally, our stars lined up, and we agreed to meet for an hour before a scheduled Private Workshop. She had no shoes -- you'll like her red boots in the video! -- and no clubs (so I loaned her my Sand Wedge). Most of all, she had no Flat Left Wrist. As her first few Strokes reveal, she had absolutely no control of this mandatory alignment. With all due respect to Vickie, her beginning efforts were as un-golflike as any you will ever see.

The good news is that I filmed the entire lesson. I wanted her to have a record of her beginning and a visual standard against which to measure her progress in the coming weeks. There was, however, a slight technical problem...

I have just purchased a new microphone for my camera -- you've heard the static from my old one on Collin's tape -- and, uh, I forgot to turn it on. Which was unfortunate, because the attached external mike disabled the internal one. Hence there is no sound on the video. But not to worry, because there is plenty of 'hands on' help and demonstration, and members will see the magic unfold over the hour.

And, indeed, it was magic!

Get ready to que it up, Bagger. It's comin' your way today.

lb

I didn't see this post til just now - this video will be what it's all about! Thanks to Yoda, Bagger, and Vicki.