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metallion 06-13-2005 01:34 PM

Sationary head drill?
 
In Destin I learned that my head moves significantly to the right in the backswing, causing too much hip slide going back and all sorts of problems, including difficulty in performing a proper extensor action.

So I am trying to re-program for a stationary head. The only off-course drill I have been able to come up with is to rest the right side of my skull to the doorblade of an open door, putting a ball in the right spot on the floor and swinging back without a club. It gives me a new "perspective" on where the ball should be in relation to the head and a new feeling for the backswing move. Also the door moves if the head moves.



Still I am able to do some "hula hula" at the same time, which is also good.

Obviously there are some drawbacks since I am unable to do this with a club and/or plane board. The closet or door is in the way.

So I wonder if anyone has come up with other ways of "programming the head" to be stationary assuming there is no one around to help watching your head is not moving.

Thanks

mb6606 06-13-2005 02:52 PM

Yoda mentioned to focus your eyes on the ball. If your view of the ball changes during the swing you have moved your head!
I have the same problem and it is not easy to change.

jim_0068 06-13-2005 03:19 PM

lol...we need one of those popcorn smileys :lol:

drewitgolf 06-13-2005 03:22 PM

The Shadow knows
 
While it depends on the time of day and the amount of clouds in the sky, try using your shadow on the ground. Place a ball or balls on the ground as a reference point for your head. Take some practice swings while watching your shadow for proper movement.

metallion 06-13-2005 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_0068
lol...we need one of those popcorn smileys :lol:

LOL. Hey. I know I need to <look around twice> before ever thinking of this "drill". ;-) Now: there's a reason I am asking for alternatives.

Anyway, Here ya go:


Theodan 06-13-2005 04:48 PM

Don't underestimate potential biomechanical issues. Make sure the muscles/tendons in your neck are flexible/stretched enough to stave off being pulled out of position by shoulder rotation.

The only gadget I have seen that may help is the "orange loop' knock off of the Inside Approach. At setup you visually place the ball inside the loop.

Something else is to place a mark on the dominant eye lense of a pair of glasses and keep it over the ball position until both arms through.

The issue with ocular tricks is that you'll learn some scary things about the dominant eye and perceived ball position. :shock:

There's little substitute for somebody holding a clump of your hair while you hit balls. My wife seems to enjoy doing it.... there's even a slight look of disappointment when I keep my head still. #-o

Charlie

metallion 06-13-2005 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theodan
The only gadget I have seen that may help is the "orange loop' knock off of the Inside Approach. At setup you visually place the ball inside the loop.

Sounds interesting. Any pics or links?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Theodan
Something else is to place a mark on the dominant eye lense of a pair of glasses and keep it over the ball position until both arms through.

Great idea. Will try. (Luckily I am aware of dominant eye effects ;-)

krpainter 06-14-2005 08:00 AM

Stationary Head
 
I have had the same problem and something that has helped me a lot is practising with the short 4 sided dowels and an impact bag in front of a mirror (or a glass door/windows at night). I have a sliding glass door in my basement that I use at night.

Go into your setup and align your nose with a mark on the mirror/glass. You can use a natural mark in the glass/mirror (like a panel or something), or put a small vertical piece of masking tape. Then go to the top and check to see if your head is in roughly the same position. You can also check after you hit the impact bag.

After many, many repititions of this I am seeing progress with keeping my head steady. The visual feedback definitely helps with this.

Keith

wvgolfer 06-14-2005 11:26 AM

I had the same problem of moving to the right on the backswing. Chuck Wike put a plastic chair beside my right leg and hip. If you sway or move right you will bump the chair. After hitting about twenty balls this way, I no longer sway or move off the ball on the backswing.

v10king 06-23-2006 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606

Yoda mentioned to focus your eyes on the ball. If your view of the ball changes during the swing you have moved your head!

This works so well for me. Huge difference. It was tough at first but definately quiets things down.

EdZ 06-23-2006 09:32 AM

A helpful visual for me is seeing the 'tripod' in my minds eye.

The legs of the tripod are your two legs, and a line from under your chin to the ground between your feet (but towards the plane line). Due to the forward lean from the hips (your head being closer to the plane line than the centers of your feet) - you can imagine a triangle between these points 'on the ground', as the points the legs would touch.

Thus, the 'tripod'. A full 3-D visual of a pyramid with its tip under your chin. I find an added benefit of this visual is that it also helps me maintain my spine angle.

Very useful for quieting down extra motion for those that are flexible enough to make a good turn and be very 'stable' - especially useful for hitters IMO.

Of course there is always my dad's visual he told me when I was a kid (for the men anyway) - imagine a string tied around your private parts that goes straight down into the ground - don't hurt yourself!

neil 06-23-2006 10:13 AM

Try Yodaslukes speciality-THE HALF FULL WATER BOTTLE-you will REALLY get the feeling of keeping that head still!

bray 06-23-2006 12:31 PM

Good point, Neil.

For those of you who haven't seen it. Ted will put a half full water bottle on top of his head at address and then hit the ball, while keeping the water bottle balanced on his head to follow through. It's great fun. I enjoyed presenting it to my level 2 class in Port St. Lucie for the PGA of America. No questions as to whether my head was stationary or not, and they didn't even send me home for using TGM.

By the way it gets harder with the driver still toying with that shot with the water bottle, but Ted can do it.

Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.

B-Ray

h.kan 07-06-2006 12:17 PM

Aha
My new training aid is ready, a bottle of vinegar had the right form to fit my head snuggly :) (Dr Per vinäger) ...Now do I dare to take this to the range?
håkan

Mike O 07-06-2006 01:02 PM

New Invention
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by v10king
This works so well for me. Huge difference. It was tough at first but definately quiets things down.

Was just reading through this thread - not really that interested - but I did think of one thing that might be good if you're working on this. Since the ball is "so far" away- and the closer something is to your sight the better you can see if you're moving- what about having a string about a foot long with a ball or something hanging from the string- and you holding the string in your mouth as you swing. It probably would really show you if your head moves at all.

Oh by the way - please visit my website- I'm selling a foot long string attached to a golf ball for $24.95 each + shipping!:laughing9 Look it up under "head movement detector".

golfgnome 07-06-2006 06:07 PM

One thing that has worked very well for me and some of my students is to get a small mirror such as a women's make-up mirror or one that can stand. Position it outside the ball so you can see your face in it at fix. Because the mirror is close to the ball you can actually hit balls while looking in the mirror. I have a mirror that sells for $89.95 and if you buy today you get a bottle of water and length of rope complete with a ball tied to the end for FREE!

Mike O 07-06-2006 08:15 PM

special sale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golfgnome
One thing that has worked very well for me and some of my students is to get a small mirror such as a women's make-up mirror or one that can stand. Position it outside the ball so you can see your face in it at fix. Because the mirror is close to the ball you can actually hit balls while looking in the mirror. I have a mirror that sells for $89.95 and if you buy today you get a bottle of water and length of rope complete with a ball tied to the end for FREE!

Oh by the way - please visit my website- I'm selling a foot long string attached to a golf ball for $24.95 each + shipping! Look it up under "head movement detector".

Update: I'm throwing in a free mirror and bottle of water - if you call in NOW on my 1-800#:) Yes, the next 10 callers will receive a mirror and bottle of water FREE! With your purchase of a ball and string for $24.95

12 piece bucket 07-06-2006 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O
Was just reading through this thread - not really that interested - but I did think of one thing that might be good if you're working on this. Since the ball is "so far" away- and the closer something is to your sight the better you can see if you're moving- what about having a string about a foot long with a ball or something hanging from the string- and you holding the string in your mouth as you swing. It probably would really show you if your head moves at all.

Oh by the way - please visit my website- I'm selling a foot long string attached to a golf ball for $24.95 each + shipping!:laughing9 Look it up under "head movement detector".

Too easy . . . .

12 piece bucket 07-06-2006 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O
Oh by the way - please visit my website- I'm selling a foot long string attached to a golf ball for $24.95 each + shipping! Look it up under "head movement detector".

Update: I'm throwing in a free mirror and bottle of water - if you call in NOW on my 1-800#:) Yes, the next 10 callers will receive a mirror and bottle of water FREE! With your purchase of a ball and string for $24.95

What about all the pictures of the farm animals on there? You gonna give the hook up on them to?

Mooooooooooo!!!!


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