Hitting Basics - When/Where Is The Right Arm Thrust Applied?
 

For Hitting, when/where in the Downstroke is the correct place to begin applying the Right Arm Thrust?

Firing The Right Arm For Maximum Power
 

When does the Hitter employ his Right Arm Thrust? It depends upon the Release employed.

Obviously, the Release is earlier with the Sweep Releases (10-24-A/B/C). For Maximum Power (6-B-1-A) and Maximum Trigger Delay (6-B-1-C), the Release is Delayed until the Right Elbow passes the Line of Sight to the Ball.

Lee Trevino spoke of this Delay in terms of a string he imagined attached to the Ball on one end and his chin on the other. On the Downstroke, when his Hands 'broke the string,' the Right Arm fired -- automatically.

Re: Firing The Right Arm For Maximum Power
 

No wonder I've been having trouble -- I have been trying to fire the Right Arm directly from the Top. Just so that I'm understanding correctly, the Pivot brings the Right Elbow to the Release Point and then you fire?

"the Pivot brings the Right Elbow to the Release Point and then you fire?"

As a beginner hitter, what i am doing from the top now is applying #1 pressure to the left thumb and every thing starts automatically. I guess not at the stage of controlling, sensing when to apply the thurst.

From your comment, does it means that I should work on using the right shoulder down first (since pivot brings ..) or using the left hip shift first?..

Currently I have difficulty making my left arm straight after impact when playing ( have no problem on the driving range), i guess my alignment is wrong on the course.

Wheeling The Big Gun In
 

Yes, Bob. From the Top, the Pivot Transports the Power Package to the Release Point.

Then, and only then, does the Right Elbow Fire.

Thanks for clearing the "Marine Layer"!

I must be pretty thick, I am having a tough time with just words, may
words with pictures would help clear the fog

Try to find a clip of Kenny Perry's swing (Red Goat may have one). I'm not saying you should copy him, but that little hitch he has makes it easier to visually identify the pivot and thrust.

Is this right arm thrust you guys are talking about a push with the tricep of the right arm? I am a hitter, and I really don't feel a release, per se, I simply drive my right forearm down out and through the ball, it's almost as if I don't even have a hand.

Sounds like a good thought to me. Basically the direct drive of PP1 (driving the heel of the rt hand agains the left thumb). Boom.

That is a similar feel to what I'm getting. To me it feels like I'm not releasing the club at all, more like I'm even holding on through impact.

Maybe I am getting a little of the info thru my thick head. I hit the
ball a lot better at the driving range today The only thing I can describe
is thoughts. I hope this does not foulup any newbie like my. Here goes.

Trying to use hitting. At the top while trying to keep the shaft in line with
my forearm. (per dowel pratice) feel like right arm is raised in a swearing in
position. From there I drive the right forearm toward the ground elbow to
hand straight down. If I did not pivot I feel like I would just hit my self
in the side with my elbow. I try to be aware of a bent right wrist doing this.
Another thing I check that the left arm/ shoulder are connected during
the down swing. This is what is working for me. Your mileage may very.

Things That Work
 

You're working on the right things, Bob. Stay with it...and thanks for posting! :D

Is this where
 

......the big pulley/ small pulley line of thinking enters in?

""Yes, Bob. From the Top, the Pivot Transports the Power Package to the Release Point.

Then, and only then, does the Right Elbow Fire. ""

yoda,

when the "right elbow fires" is that not extensor action?

i'm a little confused as to when to apply right arm extensor action, using the right triceps. i've heard that extensor action should be applied throughout the entire swing, which keeps right hand heel pressure on the left thumb. but, that would seem contradictory to deliverng the power package to the release point and "only then" firing the right elbow.

should i try to actively straighten the right elbow from the top, or does that not occur until my hands have reached a point closer to the ball?

thanks, mike.

For right arm swingers, they should actively straighten the right elbow, from the top it's "one smooth motion" (right arm acceleration) to the release point...then utilizing a non-automatic snap release a la Jodie Mudd or Ernie Els....see Harvey Penick's little red book...what I just described is what Harvey called "the magic move"....TGM AI Tom Tomasello defined the magic move in his Australia video....the muscles of the right forearm start the club down....the body reacts to the muscles of the right forearm...Tomasello student Mark Evershed developed a teaching system around the magic move called "The Golf Solution"....www.t-g-s.com......on the lesson tee with Tomasello, I asked Tommy "Where in the book does it say to use the right forearm to start the club down...his response was "7-3, THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM"

DG

so right arm swingers needn't worry about extensor action from takeaway through to the follow through, is that correct?
.............maybe i'm a right arm swinger!

Tommy very definitely teaches extensor action in his right arm swing, so i'm pretty sure DG will tell you it is still needed.


John

Right Arm Drive
 

For me, the hitting impulse is programmed at the top of the swing. When my pivot moves my hips, right shoulder and right forearm into position, the #3 pressure point increases and moves slightly aft. I'm ready for this sensation and then begin to drive my #1 and #3 PP toward the aft inside quad od the ball. It seems more of a thrusting pitching motion rather than a straightening of the right elbow. The #1 PP subsides or stays constant about halfway thru the release and the #3 PP increases dramatically. The pivot plays a huge roll in this procedure because without the hips aligned properly, I don't sense the #3 PP moving aft and traveling toward the aft quad of the ball. Then #3 PP becomes more directing than powering.

I can also right arm thrust by using tricept muscles but this seems more of a punch sroke and my right shoulder has to travel further down plane to the ball and occurs much closer to impact. Not as massive feeling, but effective.

Loading And Supporting The Right Arm Drive
 

For both Hitters and Swingers, the Pivot Loads the #3 Lag Pressure Point during the Start Down. This insures that the Body will lead the Power Package into the Downstroke and offers assurance that it will continue to do so into the Finish.

For Hitters, the Loading is maintained on the Aft side of the Shaft. Since the Right Forearm supports this Loading Action, this procedure simultaneously Loads the Bent Right Arm. Led by the Hip Slide (parallel to the chosen Delivery Line), the Downstroke Right Shoulder Turn takes up the initial inertia -- the disinclination of the Sweet Spot to follow.

But...the Shoulder Turn is slow, and its ability to continue the Downstroke Acceleration soon pales in comparison to that of the now Loaded Right Triceps. Accordingly, the Right Shoulder early in the Downstroke ceases to apply Thrust. Instead, its Action (actively doing work) becomes merely Motion (permitting, but not causing, other events to occur).

It thus becomes the Launching Pad -- the 'recoil' platform -- for the Driving Right Arm.

Yes

Extensor action is apart of the right arm swing...a non-automatic snap release for your full swing.

As Yoda described above with a 4 barrel hitting stroke, he is using momentum transfer and he is clearing the hips so he can properly execute an angle of approach delivery line. The right arm swinger doesn't use momentum transfer....the right forearm starts the club down per 10-3-B, -D, -K and per 10-20-B, -D with a late release per 10-24-D for full swings (those combinations can be found in chapter 11).

In addition to the three essentials and three imperatives, one should have a real working knowledge of section 1-L (percision golf) and Chapter 11 (proper component combinations).


DG