Swing Study
 

It has been said that Brad Faxon has "too much lag," and that de-lagging him some would help him. I'm pretty sure at one time he did try to de-lag his swing.

What do you think of this? Have you ever seen a(rare) case of too much #2 Accumulator Lag in one's standard procedure, or do you believe this is possible?

Be kind to one another!

de-steering instead
 

De-lagging. What a crock! Charles Howell used to have a ton of lag and lean until he was de-lagged..and check out his stats BEFORE the lead poisoning. He was #1 in Total Driving early in his career. Now, he's pretty well down the list.
Brad Faxon steers the ball too often. Neither he nor Tiger get "stuck" because of too much lag. We all just steer too much.

Good post! What would you say is the best remedy for Steering?

Thanks!

B

In my case steering = bending the plane line right in followthrough leading to a high hands finish.At Canton Brian Manzella thought this was my biggest fault.
The remedy was learning how to swing on plane. I am doing lots of training on this now using a laser from impact onwards keeping the laser pointed at the base line and in my case (swinger) training in horizontal hinging. Also I am working on keeping the club on plane through the followthrough swivel. Clyde Melancon of
http://www.golfjustlikethepros.com/
Has made me up a prototype of a Dual Laser Grip. A grip with a laser at both ends 180* from eachother.
http://www.golfjustlikethepros.com/D...ining_Grip.htm
I got the idea for the device when working on killing my steering action. It is due to turn up any day but I have a got a good feeling about it. Swinging on plane feels like you are swinging well left in followthrough compared to steering.

Bill. I don't have a high opinion of Leadbetter but have you got any idea of "His" logic behind wanting to reduce the amount of accumulator lag in Howell's swing. when you say "lean". Do you mean forward lean of the shaft at impact? What is Leadbetter trying to achieve by reducing that.
At the Open at St George's I got a job as a spotter. I was standing in the fenced off area between the spectator stand and the players on the practice ground(Press only area) . Howell was spraying his driver all over the place while being taught by Leadbetter he was getting really angry. There was another spotter a few yards from me directly behind him an Irish guy called Eanna . Howell stopped hitting balls walked to the fence and semi shouted at him "Have you got a problem , have you got a problem" I guess he was looking for an excuse for his poor performance. It crossed my mind to say " He has not got a problem mate but you have . That useless coach ." I kept my mouth shut but have wondered what the outcome would have been if I had said that.

The "Laser" :)
 

In an ideal world, the laser would come out of the #3 pressure point and shoot through the line of pull (sweetspot). If the laser is close enough to the #3 pressure point, shooting straight down the shaft can suffice.

Ted: Thanks for that. So am I correct in thinking that the laser should point slightly outwards and above the base line in the followthrough about 1 1/2" or so? Can you describe precisely how you should use the laser in the post impact stages of the swing? I want to get this right.

Billy,

What do you think of Sergio's delagged Acc #2?

Get this concept in your Computer:

You make a motion, and the ball just gets in the way. You don't try to hit down, or try to square the face up, or try to accelerate just before Impact in an attempt to get more mash. Never hit at the ball. Never make any compensations for Impact. Ball just gets in the way...

Elvis just left the building . . .

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I saw Charley's swing after a de-lagging. I think he had 1 degree forward lean with a sand wedge. The instructor(G.S.E.D.) asked him why he was doing that... he said, that's what his other instructor wanted.

The G.S.E.D. put the lag(#2) right back in there. As I recall...he was able to get it back quite quickly. An obvious difference of opinion on the LAG.

The laser
 

No, it's the sweetspot that should trace the line, not the hosel. The sweetspot should not be outside the baseline. The line of pull (#3 pressure point to sweetspot) traces the baseline of the plane. 1-L #5 and #6 have to be understood in context.

Lag PRESSURE
 

There are many definitions floating around about lag, to which I was subjected in my own quest. Many misconceptions which include ideas of accumulator lag or forcing a lack of rhythm. Can anyone say, "left arm flying wedge?"

Lynn Blake explained lag pressure to me the way that Homer meant and the way that Homer explained it to him. I no longer like to see the word lag without being followed by the word pressure. Lag Pressure, lag Pressure, lag Pressure, lag Pressure. Now, I feel better.

Can you give us the explanation of lag pressure that Yoda gave you? Or is it posted some were on the forum and can you point me to it thanks.

Lagster...

When we talk of lag, I assume we mean lag pressure and not necessarily max accumulator #2.

Now - can we have too much lag pressure?

Damn right we can! If you create too much lag pressure, you may not be able to sustain it. See 1-D, 2nd paragraph and 6-C-1-A, 3rd paragraph.

Sustain the lag.

Lag
 

In the early days before the fog was lifted by Lynn, the word 'sustain' gave me a bad concept. It meant to me that I had to keep something, namely accumulator lag. I didn't understand that it was keeping a constant pressure against the shaft. I thought it was keeping the clubhead behind. It was a bad concept for me.

Do you think that has to do with you being a Hitter Ted?

Me too YodasLuke!!!

When I first got into golf, I thought lag was accumulator #2 maxed out! Boy was I ever wrong!

Thank you Homer!!!

How did you boys make the transition from Accumlator Lag to LAG PRESSURE???

Thanks!

B

12 piece...

Still working on it!! But at least I am on the right path. No more holding the wristcock forever!

For me wristcock isn't 'held', extensor action holds it for me for as long as is necessary so my full attention can be focused on lag pressure.

Does anybody else feel this?

Thanks

Holding lag
 

I held the #1 accumulator, and tilted to the right so my right shoulder could get closer to the ground. I also held the #2 accumulator. I was a wreck. But, hitting was the answer for me.

I would be hesitant to say what you shoul/shouldnt feel - but if it works, it cant be wrong, right?






Thats a great compensation! (just kidding)!

Understood - thank God for TGM!

When the Flying Wedges get destroyed -- especially when the Right Wrist Cocks -- it's a sure sign that one is trying too hard get max out Accumulator #2. I had a look at one of Sergio's older swings, and I could see his Right Wrist went from Level at the Top to Cocked at about half way down. Flimsy Power Package structure, big no no.