The Yellow Book
 

Ok - I'm going to buy the book very soon. Do new editions come out ever or should I just buy what is sold on Amazon? Thanks

The Sixth And Last
 

The sixth edition (1982) is the most current. Homer left revisions for a seventh, but despite persistent promises since his death in 1983, there has been none.

You should buy the book at www.thegolfingmachine.com instead of amazon. Amazon has 'resale' copies and are generally more expensive. I bought another copy the other day as a gift for a friend... I think it was approx. $26 including shipping from the golfing machine sight.

Seventh Edition Notes?
 

I have seen many references to the seventh edition notes and have seen several posts, from different people, which communicate, in detail, what some of the notes include.:)

Who has copies of these notes and how did they get them?
Would it be possible for the common TGM golfer (not AI) to get a copy of the notes[-o< , as an alternative to waiting for the elusive seventh edition:confused: ?

I don't you can get them easily. Only a select few have access or copies to the notes and they are not likely to be available to mere mortals such as you or I.
Its just a pity, that the 7th was never published.
Alex

7th Edition
 

On cassette tape, I have Tom Tomasello saying..."I have the 7th edition too"....the conversation between Tommy and myself was about how the book became longer by comparing the 1st edition to the 6th edition (approximately 100 more pages in the 6th)...I wish I could turn the clock back to see if Tommy was refering to an actual printed copy of the 7th edition!!!

DG

Bringing Home Baby
 

Wonderful.

Did he say how the editorial process was (or is) being handled? Has there been any kind of Review Board appointed? Or is it just a Committee of One? I have not been contacted for any input, and I don't know anyone else who has.

I promise there are errors in the 7th Edition revisions that he alone will not catch. There is at least one major change that demands changes in several areas for consistency of presentation. And there is text that unless rewritten does not say what Homer meant to say. Not to mention the errors in the 6th that the 7th revisions don't catch.

I applaud the promise of publication.

And will give the actual event a standing ovation.

But the job is bigger than one man.

Here's hoping he gets it right.

Oh, my
 

If you hold a child too tightly and too closely......

Charlie :sad:

Does anyone really think it is coming out?

I'll stick with the forum. Much better company and dynamic too.

6b

This sounds great and also look forward to the 7th Edition coming out but im going to wait for Yoda's review before I go and get it.

Heavy Lifting
 

When Homer Kelley left Seattle for Macon, Georgia, to speak to the Georgia Section of the PGA some 23 years ago, the revisions for the 7th edition were on his desk. Some of the more important additions were incomplete, mere placeholders for what he planned on later adding. He expected, I am sure, to write that text and to clean up around certain other revisions when he returned.

But he did not return.

And that places a heavy burden on those who would publish the final edition of his work.

Ben Doyle Web Site Too
 

I got my last two copies of the yellow book from Ben Doyle web site. Great price and really fast too. Stay away from Amazon, I ordered my first copy from there a few years back and got the 4th edition which was not what I wanted.

Great news about the 7th but I will believe it when it happens. I like the forum for the interaction, video, etc. I really hope that they get the Golfing Machine site up and running but it has essentially been dead for quite a while.....unfortunately.

I'll buy the 4th edition off of you man! Holla with a PM.

Some people just can't see the gold even if it's staring right in front of them!


Don't get too excited guys -- I can just feel there's going to be a 'slight' delay! Mark my words. I sincerely hope Joe can prove me wrong.

You need to publish an unofficial complement to the 7th Edition!
If you were to set up a "Review Board", who are some of the people you think should be in it?

Missing Men Formation
 

A few of the people who are in attendance at the TGM Summit today.

And more who are not.

Joe has stated that the book's publication is imminent. Assuming that is indeed the case, then an initial draft of this most important publication was not put out for comment by senior TGM Authorized Instructors. This failure to tap his most precious resource -- his own AI network -- is indicative of the isolation that continues to encumber The Golfing Machine®.

Is management vision an oxymoron? Hmm...
 

Aahh, yes, the typical management credo of never soliciting opinions they cannot control. That could lead to messy things like enlightenment and truth ;)

Yoda,

I've always wondered why you make the extra effort of putting the Registered Trademark ® sign after The Golfing Machine.
Is it just for the sake of completeness, or is there more to it?

:)

Bottom line the The Golfing Machine is HERE at LBG. The REVOLUTION is on the internet and will be televised.

The book's 7th edition IS coming out very soon.

It is completed in electronic form and is at the printers.

The revisions were made from notes that were from Homer, but somewhat different from the revisions that I have seen in the past.

Maybe this is the correct set, and some of the things that some wanted from reading the 'bootleg' set of revisions, are more accurate.

I am trying to convice the "house" to release it in pdf for as well and include ALL THE other editions as well.

I'll see how it goes with that.

Friends Like These
 

There's more to it.

:cool:

Sounds Great Brian....I would buy a copy of the complete set of all of the editions!!!

DG

The Golfing Machine,LLC has all sorts of Homer Kelley info, notes, audio, etc. that there may only be one set of.

There probably are many other pieces of Homer's work around.

I have asked the "house" that the AI's be made available all things Homer.

I don't care HOW MUCH it cost.

The Seventh Edition -- Getting It Right
 

Earlier in this thread, Mikestloc posted that, at the TGM Summit in Birmingham, Joe Daniels announced that the publication of the 7th edition was just weeks away. My above reply to that post has generated some controversy on Brian Manzella's website. I have expanded on my view in my reply to Tongzilla and Pro on that site and have reprinted that post below.

No, Homer Kelley did not have a review board, but ideally, he would have. This editorial process serves to catch countless errors in advance, not in arrears. For that reason, major publishers require authors to submit drafts of their work for review by editors and often by knowledgeable colleagues. The editors supply the grammatical and organizational scrutiny and the colleagues provide the technical expertise. As most grateful authors tell you in the preface of their book, this process is extremely valuable.

In Homer's case, this lack of process resulted in the first edition being issued with a long list of errata at the front of the book. Later, Mac O'Grady sent Homer a similar list, largely concerning misplaced captions. As Homer said, "That was the last place I would have looked." In a 1981 telephone conversation, I asked Homer if, based on my understanding of the Flying Wedges, shouldn't Photo 5-C-2 in the prior editions be 'Bent-Level-Turned', not 'Bent-Cocked-Turned'? He agreed and corrected the error in the 6th. [Homer acknowledged that contribution in the Master Class tapes of January 1982.] On October 9, 1983, eight months after Homer's passing, I personally sent Sally Kelley a list of eleven errors in the 6th edition to be corrected in a future 7th. After twenty-three more years of study, I can only say that the list was very incomplete.

Nobody is arguing that the integrity of Homer's work must be preserved. However, it is clearly in the best interest of all that the 7th edition be as error-free as possible. And this requires more than one person, whether that person works with or without editors. The effort requires nothing less than the most knowledgeable TGM Instructors in the world -- a handful of carefully selected eyes and brains -- performing a critical review before publication. I have no doubt that such a process would yield invaluable contributions without changing the character of the work one iota. Make no mistake, those same eyes and brains will be doing exactly that after publication. What a shame if, for want of simply asking, 'Homer's last' comes to market at less than its best.

As far as "being critical" and "firing shots from afar", I made this same recommendation -- and more than a few others -- very up close and personal almost two years ago. Assuming publication is indeed imminent, that recommendation obviously fell on deaf ears. Or perhaps simply ears that didn't agree.

So now we wait.

I told ya!
 

I'm no prophet, but this it a post I made on 6th December 2005.