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The Beauty of 12-5
If you haven't done so lately, take a long hard look at 12-5-0, 12-5-1, 12-5-2, and 12-5-3.
I start every range session progressing through this section and it really helps to get everything going in the right direction. |
Trig,
Can you please highlight some of the pitfalls that people fall into when trying to utilise 12-5? |
It is a thing of beauty....
I came up with a routine last year and used till I hurt my arm. But I found that I could take it to the course. Hit a bad shot, just do a mini practice session (no ball of course) of a 1,2 and 3. In doing this I can only recall once or twice hitting back to back bad shots. I posted my routine in the practice forum along with some of the pitfalls. |
Boundaries And The Basic Motion Curriculum
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The first pitfall is failure to observe the boundaries of the respective stages. For example: The Basic Motion is two feet back and two feet through. Unless this motion is made on the Putting or Chipping green, the Stroke is almost always too long. On the range, even after I demonstrate the correct length (and hit the ball no further than about thirty feet) the first thing I see from the student is a pitch shot. The Hands swing back at least waist high and finish at least waist high, and the Clubhead is above the Hands on both ends of the Stroke. This is Stage Two (Acquired Motion) not Stage One (Basic Motion). So, in practicing Stage One and even Stage Two, go to the short game area. Give yourself a target just a few yards away. This is a Putt or a Chip Shot (with, at most, a few yards of carry). Practicing Stage One on the range is a very dull and expensive way to get the job done. But if you have no alternative, visualize a chipping green and a near target, otherwise your Stroke will be too long, and you will exceed the Basic Motion's boundary. |
12-5-1
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I would also add...
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Stage Two has zero pivot EXCEPT shoulder turn. Stroke length takes focus just as in Stage One and the right forearm goes no further than parallel to the ground. So I think the major pitfalls are making the stroke too long and using pivot/too much pivot in Stage One and Two. |
How many Accumulators should one use for 12-5-1?
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Stage Two (Acquired Motion) question
How far should the follow through go during 12-5-2 Acquired Motion? I normally practice it with my arms going to Both Arms Straight. I do it both with and without a finish swivel but not sure this is correct. When I add the finish swivel, I get a bit higher ball flight and a bit more carry.
Homer references 6-4-A for the follow-through with 12-5-2 and I believe Both Arms Straight is the correct way to interpert this reference. Please correct me if I'm wrong about this. :D |
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If I think about it, there is no wrist cock either, so that eliminates #2. I think the answer is 2. You should use accumulator #1 and #4 while executing 12-5-1. |
Basic Motion Mastery -- Step By Step
Once you know how far back and through to swing, the next pitfall is in knowing what to swing.
Start with your Hands only. :cool: Swing continuously...Back and through and back and through and back and through. Keep your Feet Flat and your Head Stationary. The Left Arm should be straight, the Left Wrist Flat and the Right Elbow should bend. Your Body should move only as necessary to accomodate the motion of your swinging Hands. When you've got this down pat, make the same motion using a dowel. Run the shaft up your the Left Forearm. This will help keep your Left Wrist Flat and your Hands swinging through 'Impact.' Without a Clubhead to flip or a Ball to hit 'at,' your Hands will quickly learn their assignments. When you can do this, begin making the same motion with a Club (but without a Ball). Grip the Club down a bit, and anchor the shaft against the Left Forearm until you can keep your Left Wrist Flat and steady throughout the Stroke. When the above steps have been mastered, you have prepared yourself properly for the execution of a Golf Shot. |
One Arm Accumulator For The Basic Motion
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12-5 and Yoda videos
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I do the same since i have uploaded "A Lesson with Yoda - Collin Neeman" video (specially chapter 1,2 and 3) The video incited me to reread 12-5 chapters. Right from this time ALL my practice sessions, start as yours and I can attest that you are totally right. These are not only the best foudations for a solid golf swing, but my short game have really improved +++. I stil have some problem with 12_5_3 (Pivot , Swivel...). But maybe this will be the subject of a futur post. Thanks Pm |
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The Basic Motion -- Pull Or Push
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The Active Direct Drive is the player's choice per the Basic Patterns of 12-1-0 (Hitting) and 12-2-0 (Swinging). A bystander cannot tell which Force (Pull or Push) is being employed. Study 10-11-0-1 and 10-11-0-4. |
Why is Pressure Point #2 used in 12-5-1 if there is no Accumulator #2?
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Drag Or Drive -- Pick A Pressure Point
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For Hitters, with or without Wristcock, the #3 Pressure Point Drive Loads the entire Primary Lever Assembly (the Left Arm and Club / 6-A-2). |
Gettin' your $$$'s worth . . .
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Depending on their pricing structure indoor golf domes are great for this reason alone. There is a dome near me where they have a short game area which you can use for FREE. Unlimited balls. Then you can go to a hitting station where you're only charged by the amount of time you spend in the station. Again, unlimited balls. Besides, it's only 90 yards to the other side of the dome. I find hitting drivers in domes a waste of time.
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Should PP#2 really be in 12-5-1?
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Also, you said earlier that Accumulators #2 and #3 should be zeroed out when using 12-5-1. Which means the club should be gripped in the cup of the left hand (rather than in the heel pad as usual). With that in mind, Pressure Point #2 (last three fingers of the left hand) isn't even on the club! So how can PP#2 be used even for the Swinger? Thanks for your clarification Yoda :p |
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More On Pressure Points -- Hitting And Swinging
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In the Stage One Basic Motion, there is no Left Wristcock. Hence, the Primary Lever Assembly remains in its In Line condition (Centrifugal Momentum 2-K#2). The player then uses either (1) the Left Arm to Pull the Secondary Lever through Impact (Swinging); or (2) the Right Arm to Push the Primary Lever through Impact (Hitting). The Swinger Pulls the Secondary Lever toward the Plane Line centrifugally (as if the Clubshaft was a piece of rope) via Pressure Point #2. The Hitter Pushes the Primary Lever toward the Plane Line muscularly (as if the Left Arm and Clubshaft were one solid piece of board) by the thrust of the Right Elbow against Pressure Point #3. Hitter's caveat: Normally, the Left Arm is driven by the Thrust of the #1 Accumulator (Right Elbow) against the #1 Pressure Point (the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb). Simultaneously, the Clubshaft is driven also by the Right Elbow but now against Pressure Point #3 (the right forefinger). When only Pressure Point #3 is employed, the Right Elbow must drive both the Left Arm and the Clubshaft using that lone Pressure Point (1-L #7). This means that the Acceleration Thrust must be applied equally against both the Left Arm and Club (and not merely the Club alone). Otherwise, the Left Wrist Bends, the Club swings forward independently of the Left Arm and the shot is lost (1-L #8 ). |
Pressure Point #2 With Zero #3 Accumulator
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Thanks for your clarification Yoda :) "...tips of the fingers..." I mean who would've guessed that!
Moving on... What the heck is Foot Loading (number 5 in the list) doing in 12-5-1? Surely that violates the "zero Pivot" (just enough to accomodate motion of the Hands) condition, no? Another note: I think there's an error regarding the Reference number for 'Pace' (component number 19). 2-G talks about Hinge Motion which has everything to do with Rhythm, not Pace. Shouldn't that be replaced with the reference 6-P-0 instead? |
Foot Loading is halting the backstoke from the feet...I've heard it called "Flat Loading " your feet from a certain "AI"....so with zero pivot load your feet..."FLAT" put a downward pressure "Down" to keep the feet "Flat"....
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This one should go in the 'sticky' category - wonderful post! Yoda - does this difference indicate then that a hitter may actually be better off with zero accumulator #2, and a swinger with 'max' accumulator #2 (Hogan)? It would certainly seem to differentiate loading preferences being near opposites of each other. The swinger with the 'early' set perhaps. |
Why Zero #3 Accumulator In The Basic Motion?
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With the Club located normally under the heel of the Left Hand, any Turn and Roll of the Left Wrist causes the Clubhead to 'travel' as it seeks to maintain its In Line condition with the Left Arm. This is not Lever Extension (the shortening and lengthening of the Swing Radius via the Left Wristcock). Instead, it is Rhythm -- the true Overtaking Action (of the Hands by the Club) during the Release Interval ('Through the Ball'). Conversely, when the Club is gripped in the cup of the Left Hand (or, alternatively, when the Left Wrist is fully Uncocked), any Turn and Roll of the Left Wrist actuates only the Clubface (and not the Clubhead). Thus, the Overtaking Action with its Clubhead travel and Rotational Power (4-C) is eliminated (6-B-3-A). And this, by Basic Motion definition, is our objective in a One Accumulator Stroke that uses either the Left Arm or the Right as the sole Power Source. Also, the Basic Motion of 12-5-1 introduces Hand Motion (Items #20 and #21), i.e., the Hinge Action (Clubface Control) and its Rhythm (Left Arm and Clubshaft remaining In Line). With Zero #3 Accumulator, all three Hinge Actions have identical Clubhead travel distances to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position) and hence, identical Rhythms. This allows the player to focus only on the Left Wrist alignment necessary to produce the desired Clubface Motion without concern for Clubhead travel differences. So, to limit Clubhead Power and to simplify Clubface Control, Accumulator #3 is eliminated in the Basic Motion. |
Foot Loading At Address
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"...an even distribution between both Feet but with enough on the heels to allow the toes to be lifted up momentarily without altering the distribution between the toe and heel." This loading is in stark contrast to the Foot loading recommended by the Golf Digest folk back in the '70s and '80s: Enough weight on the balls of the Feet to allow you to tap your heels! |
Actuating The #2 Accumulator
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Regarding a "'max' #2 Accumulator," the Wrist is considered to be in a Cocked condition any time it moves beyond the Level (a straight line is formed from the wrist bone to the edge of the hand) to its maximum Cocked condition. It matters little how much that Wristcock varies from player to player. What is important is that if the Wrist is Cocked, it should be fully Cocked. This eliminates the 'wobble' inherent in the less-than-full condition. Regarding Hogan's Wristcock, remember, the Wrist Cock is a Perpendicular Motion. It is not Wrist Bend, a Horizontal Motion. When the Grip is taken with the Left Hand Turned, the amount of Left Wrist Turn properly becomes Left Wrist Bend at the Top (4-D-1). This is a Double Wrist Cock (10-18-B), and it is restricted to true Swingers (those who depend solely upon Centrifugal Force to align both Clubface and Clubshaft). Ben Hogan employed this Turned Left Hand and Double Wristcock procedure in his early days, and it is readily seen in the sequence photographs of his first book, Power Golf. Later, in an effort to combat his tendency to Hook, he made two significant changes to his Grip: First, he moved the Left Hand from Turned to Vertical. Normally, this Grip produces a Single Action -- Wristcock Only. However, Hogan added a Wrist Bend at the Top thinking that he could now Roll his Wrists through Impact as hard as he wanted, and the Ball still would not Hook. Warning: This is the Land of the Meateaters, and only The Brave and Supremely Talented dare enter. |
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I was trying to figure out how Acc. #4 was involved in a stage one stroke. Then I referred to 6-B-4-0 and read this; "Left Arm Power in any form or amount can still be considered #4 Accumulator Action." So, yes Accumulator #4 is involved in the two barrel stage 1 motion. I learned something today, now back to answering the pro shop phone. Soting through the Duffer's Bible. B-Ray |
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The Basic Motion -- Always A One Accumulator Stroke
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Both Accumulators are referenced in 12-5-1 because both Arms are in Motion -- one Active and the other Passive. And that Motion is identical, no matter which Arm actually drives the Stroke. |
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For example, when using 12-5-2, we introduce Accumulator #2. Can you imagine this amount of Wrist Cock for a basic pitch shot? ![]() |
Power Regulation Versus Wrist Action
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Do not confuse the speed and sharpness of the above Maximum Power Loading Action (7-22) Driver Stroke with the Maximum Cocked Wrist (4-B-2) of the Pitch Shot. Also, remember that the Driver is the longest Club in the bag and accordingly has the Flattest Plane. The Pitch Shot, on the other hand, normally is played with the Sand Wedge, the shortest Club (except for the Putter) and is swung on a Steeper Plane. These facts, plus a slow shutterspeed, enhance the illusion of a 'greater than normal' Cocked Left Wrist. Actually, the degree of Wristcock afforded by the Flat Left Wrist (Accumulator Lag / 6-C-0) is not all that great to begin with. And as I've stated, it is advisable to have maximum Wristcock when that Accumulator is employed in order to eliminate Power Package Wobble. Maximum Wristcock does not mean maximum Accumulator #2 Power! It is true that varying the amount of 'Out-of-Line' will increase or decrease the amount of Power that ultimately can be Released (6-B-0). However, that does not mean that a full Wrist Cock demands full Power. To the contrary, Clubhead Power is a function of Effective Clubhead Mass and Clubhead Speed per 2-M-2. And this Power Regulation is totally under the conscious control of the player. I might add that I play many of my Pitch Shots with the Left Wrist Level, especially when Hitting. Remember, 'daintiness is dangerous' and the shorter Stroke with its stronger Thrust has definite advantages (3-F-6, 6-C-2-D and 10-19-A). |
One Error And More
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Moving on... Does 12-5-2/3 include all the components before it (e.g. components in 12-5-3 includes all those in 12-5-2 and 12-5-1)? The 1-L reference for 12-5-1 #15 (Pressure Point #3) is 1-L-7 and 1-L-12. 1-L-7: The Lever Assembly is driven by exerting pressure against it. So for obvious reasons, I'm thinking this reference is for Hitters only. Hmmm... 1-L-12: Ball Speed is dependent on both before Impact and after Impact Clubhead Speed. I'm thinking...PP#3 is usually assigned for sensing Clubhead Lag. And the prestressed shaft that comes with Clubhead Lag helps resist Impact Deceleration. Hmmm... |
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