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air0208 05-13-2006 09:34 PM

What are the 5 most important shots..
 
to learn from 100 yards and within?

i just wanna know some people opinions...

thanks a lot guys!
Aaron

pluthb 05-13-2006 10:41 PM

8 shots
 
According to Dave Pelz, who is at least researched based but doesn't understand how the wrists work, the eight most common shots are a 10 yard chip from the fringe/fairway, 15-yard pitch from the rough, 20-yard pitch from the rough, a 15-yard lob shot, 30 and 50-yard pitch shots and 8 and 15-yard bunker shot.
This was compiled after watching a year's worth of Tour events.
PM me and I'll send you my more info.

air0208 05-13-2006 10:59 PM

Hey Brad,

This is actually Aaron Knoll. Just wanted to say thanks for all of your help in that lesson and your other advice. In 7 tournaments this year, i ended up with 4 wins, and 3 seconds. Now getting ready for the playoffs the next 2 mondays. What other information do you have?

Thanks,
Aaron

jim_0068 05-14-2006 01:39 AM

be able to draw/fade your wedge approaches if needed

be able to hit the low brake skidding wedge into a back pin location or stiff head wind.

be able to hit about 3 or 4 different clubs 100 yards.

tongzilla 05-14-2006 03:34 AM

Master the bread and butter TGM pitch shot with a 52 degree wedge (between pitch and sand wedge). It's a mid-trajectory, with mid-high spin type of shot. You can use it from 20-60, in the rough, out the bunker, almost anywhere. And all the fancy stuff (e.g. lob shot, opening clubface, etc.) will be a piece of cake once you've mastered this.

Seanmx 05-15-2006 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tongzilla
Master the bread and butter TGM pitch shot with a 52 degree wedge (between pitch and sand wedge). It's a mid-trajectory, with mid-high spin type of shot. You can use it from 20-60, in the rough, out the bunker, almost anywhere. And all the fancy stuff (e.g. lob shot, opening clubface, etc.) will be a piece of cake once you've mastered this.

Is the "bread and butter TGM pitch" and aquired motion type action swinging to right arm parallel to ground on the backswing to both arms straight on the follow through?:think:

tongzilla 05-15-2006 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanmx
Is the "bread and butter TGM pitch" and aquired motion type action swinging to right arm parallel to ground on the backswing with to both arms straight on the follow through?:think:

Yes it is.
Once you master that, you can make it shorter/longer is easy.

EdZ 05-15-2006 02:30 PM

Putts from 8 ft and in

tongzilla 05-15-2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdZ
Putts from 8 ft and in

I say concentrate on putts from 3 ft in and putts from 35+ ft out. Spend 50/50 of your time on each. Where are you vj?

air0208 05-16-2006 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tongzilla
Master the bread and butter TGM pitch shot with a 52 degree wedge (between pitch and sand wedge). It's a mid-trajectory, with mid-high spin type of shot. You can use it from 20-60, in the rough, out the bunker, almost anywhere. And all the fancy stuff (e.g. lob shot, opening clubface, etc.) will be a piece of cake once you've mastered this.

Hey Tongzilla,

Can you explain this a little more? Ive been reading this site for a little while, but am still very much so a beginner.

Thanks,

Aaron

pluthb 05-17-2006 12:31 AM

Other shots
 
From stage one- two feet back and through with a LW, SW, GW, PW and 9I...5I and vary the ball position from your back shoudler, sternum and lead shoulder.
Couple other hints, aim the clubshaft at your lead shoulder/hinge and make one-lever motions. This will keep you busy for a while!

Keep up the great play Mr. Knoll! Remember to see it before you hit it!

john riegger 05-17-2006 12:52 AM

i think what he is trying to tell you that by using a wedge from this distance you will learn rythym and the key ingredient lag pressure.learning lag pressure makes all these little feely touchy shots so much easier. here is a good drill to learn lag pressure. take your wedge and hit your full shot and with the next ball try and hit it 5 yards shorter. keep doing this until the last ball you hit is 10 feet in front of you. this is a great drill and once you can-do this with a wedge try a different club. eventually you will be able to do this with any club in the bag. i practice this all the time, great for developing feel through mechanics.

birdie_man 05-17-2006 12:59 AM

John man....how do you control your distances? With iron shots and then wedge shots within 100 yards.

Lag Pressure will be a big thing no doubt....but do you do anything else?

Matt 05-17-2006 01:01 AM

Lag pressure is so, so, so important with wedge shots. Forget changing your backstroke length (or your follow-though length, as was recently expoused on The Golf Channel by someone who should know better!) and instead focus on lag pressure.

I'll come back to a great analogy that Lynn once used: an outfielder in baseball. He doesn't try to vary the length of his "backstroke" motion when he throws to second base versus to home plate. Instead, his Computer instantly adjusts and exerts the correct amount of force onto the baseball to make it travel a given distance. The same applies to golf - change lag pressure to change the distance you hit it. After enough practice, it'll become second nature. You see the shot and instantly dial in the amount of pressure you need to hit it that distance.

Birdie_man...I know you know about clearkeys. Sometime, try going to the course and going on full automatic with your clearkey whenever you have a wedge shot inside of 100 yards. Trust me, you'll be extremely surprised at how well your Computer automatically makes you hit the ball more or less the correct distance!

birdie_man 05-17-2006 01:06 AM

Agreed more or less man....that's a great example with the outfielder BTW. It's not how long (of a back stroke), it's how hard.

Seanmx 05-17-2006 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by air0208
Hey Tongzilla,

Can you explain this a little more? Ive been reading this site for a little while, but am still very much so a beginner.

Thanks,

Aaron

See chapters 1, 2 and 3 of the Colin Neeman lesson series. It should clear a little fog for you.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/v...se_images&g=24

lagster 05-17-2006 10:46 AM

Good Shots
 
"To make a PAR on a hole, you usually need to only hit one good shot. This could be an approach, chip, putt, etc.. To make a BIRDIE, two good shots are usually needed."

This seems very simple, but is is a little different way to look at PLAYING the game. I was told this by former Ryder Cup Member, Dave Ragan.

Sbark 05-19-2006 08:46 AM

thinking...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lagster
"To make a PAR on a hole, you usually need to only hit one good shot. This could be an approach, chip, putt, etc.. To make a BIRDIE, two good shots are usually needed."

This seems very simple, but is is a little different way to look at PLAYING the game. I was told this by former Ryder Cup Member, Dave Ragan.

....totally agreed, but i was thinking the "2 good shots" have to be with a mid iron or less club........

just looking at alot of the pro's bomb away with the drivers,Tiger in particular, gets into all kinds of places
but they make excellent shots with mid irons and wedges

lagster 05-19-2006 12:46 PM

Club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sbark
....totally agreed, but i was thinking the "2 good shots" have to be with a mid iron or less club........

just looking at alot of the pro's bomb away with the drivers,Tiger in particular, gets into all kinds of places
but they make excellent shots with mid irons and wedges

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I see what you are saying. However, a long perfectly positioned DRIVE, followed by an IRON to 3 feet= BIRDIE, or maybe EAGLE. A good DRIVE, then a fair IRON to 25 feet, then a 25 foot PUTT... GOOD DRIVE & GOOD PUTT. You can do this all different ways.


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