10-16 Knee Action
 

To whom it may concern,
What are the advantages vs. disadvantages of Standard Knee Action vs. Right Knee Anchor... The trend since the 1980's has been right knee anchor ... prior to that more Standard Knee Action. Anyone care to elaborate more on this subject matter?

Little Full...Lotta Sap

Annikan

Good question I’d like to see what Lynn, EC or BM have to say on this.

I know that Els and Wie ( and this is NOT a Leadbetter thing) have been on their right leg longer into the swing then in previous years. And it is not a reverse pivot thing, either.

In baseball the modern swing is not linear but rotational. Watch the creep Bonds, who may have the best modern swing in baseball and he is pure rotation. Watch an old timer like George Brett (old? Yikes) from the Charlie Lau hitting school and he is linear- drive onto the left leg before rotation and impact of bat on ball. I think the same thing is going on with 10-16 or close to it. A modern preference - same as restricted hip action.

The beauty of the ‘chine- cool parts to install.

hip action
 

In my opinion, changing from standard to anchored knee action or vice -versa would change the plane of the hips in the backswing.

Precision Scott,
You,ve hit a Homer....Pardon the Pun!!!!

The Knee Action does control the "Slant" or plane of the hips .....Up with the straightened leg amd down with the flexed leg.....Love those "BIOMECHANICS"....Maintaining the address flex of the knees keeps not only the Hip turn component FLAT, but also the shoulder turn component FLAT, causing the player's head to move off center to the right .... a set-up for an inside -out stroke NOT an inside-out impact ont he inclined plane...

.Remember the purpose of the left knee flexing in the backstroke is to keep the head stable or centered.

So....Do you want level hips to the ground or level hips to the Axis Tilt of the Spine. Depends on what you're trained to see.... However, the golf ball wants the club to swing on an Inclined Plane...It helps to have Shoulders and Hips to Compliment this request....by the Ball!!!

Standard Knee Action
Sam Snead
Bobby Jones
Johnny Miller
Ben Hogan

Right Knee Anchor
Nick Faldo
David Frost
Ian Baker FLINCH

Annikan

knee action
 

I had help thouogh...I learned about leg action and plane of the hips from a great instructor that should be ranked in the nation when he gets his certification.

Been lurking, sniffing and stealing around the gold mine here and stumbled on this.
Given that it should never lock beyond center, when does right anchor become designated as standard?. Does even the smallest change from its address angle designate it as standard?.
Annikan, are you sure about the Wee Ice Mon?. Would it not be possible to create sufficient hip tilt with the Right Anchor?. Or even a Rotated Shoulder turn regardless of what the hulas going on down there?.
Oh, Masters of Wisdom help, I am incubating way too much and the chicks are on vacation!

Anchors Aweigh
 

Except for the natural rotation of the Knees during the 'Sit Down', the 'Anchor' designation refers to the Impact Fix or Address degree of Bend. There is some latitude here, but when the Knee is decidedly straightening, the Hips are tilting and there is Standard Action.

In TGM, the sixth edition, it states in,
"2-0 The Three Basic Essentials are: 1. A stationary Head"
but then in the same text under the
12-1-0 and 12-2-0 for the basic stroke patterns it reccommends Right Anchor for both stroke patterns swinging and hitting.

My Question with all this is why do you think Right Anchor is reccommended?? If it causes the player's head to move off center to the right as you posted above.

Soring through the Instructor's Textbook.

B-Ray

Keeps the Shoulder Turn and Hip Turn components "Flatter" in the backstroke...and ready to "drive down plane after hula hula....which I believe ...Standard Shoulder Turn component....


These my help...


10-13-A STANDARD This is dual application of the Flat (-B below) Backstroke and On Plane (-D below) Downstroke Shoulder Turn.

7-16 KNEE ACTION Knee Actionj is classified on the basis of (1) combinations of bent and straight conditions and (2) the Reference Points selected at which these combinations occur. The combination and the Reference Points selected will determine the slanting of the Hips during the Pivot. The slant is up in the direction of a straightened Knee. The slant of the Hips affects the degree of Hip Turn. Actually, the primary function of Knee Action - as with Waist Bend - is to maintain a motionless head during the Stroke.

The proper amount of Knee Bend is determined at Impact Fix (7-8) by the distance the Hips must move to allow the Right Forearm to point at the selected Plane Line per 2-J-3 and 7-3. The amount of Bend will also determine the amount of Backstroke Turn and Downstroke Slide. The amount of Bend will also determine the amount of Backstroke Turn and Downstroke Slide. The less Bend, the more the Pivot and Hip Slide will be restricted in both directions and the more upright the Plane tends to be.

If the straightened Knee is allowed to lock “beyond center” the subsequent unlocking is disruptive.

The rotated Knee should not sag into an extreme position. That weakens the strong in-line structure of the normal knee and ankle alignment.

When the Address or Fix Knee Bend of either Knee is maintained throughout the Stroke, it feels and acts like the Body has a solid anchor to the ground and therefore so designated. The “Anchor” designation still allows the Knees to rotate through the Sit-Down Position as the Strokes lengthen. So, seldom does Impact occur during the true Sit-Down Position.

It is certainly simpler to get to the ball "from the inside" if the right knee is allowed to straighten, especially useful as a backswing trigger for swingers because it tends to initiate startup swivel. Right anchor is a more 'advanced' move IMO, with the main benefit being power. The requirement of flexibility is very high when right anchor is done properly.

i agree with you on the flexibility issues the right knee staying flexed severely limits the turn of those that are less flexible. alowing that right leg to strighten allows you to turn your hips more wich in turn increases your shoulder turn and gives you more time on the downswing to get that right elbow back in front of the hip. think of sam snead allowed his right leg to straighten even though he was flexible had tons of hip turn and had tons of time on the downswing to get everything lined up.

Maximum Hip Slant but maximum Hip Turn?.
"The slant of the Hips affects the degree of the Hip Turn."
"The less bend the more the Pivot and Hip Slide will be restricted in both directions and the more upright the Plane tends to be."
The second sentence is in regard to the fix bend but if I turn back using Right Anchor and then straighten my right leg, the Hip goes up and LESS around. Am I missing something or do I have to study harder?.
Thankyou for all your help.