What is fanning?
 

Several people have mentioned fanning in other posts. What is it?

Steve

Re: What is fanning?
 

During the backswing the RIGHT FOREARM makes a slight clockwise rotation. This helps keep the forearm on plane.

I am not clear on the term 'Fanning', but as I was taught and have come to understand the following occurs in the back stroke.

From address position (Impact Fix of Adjusted Address) to the Top position you will 'Turn' the right arm (hand, forearm, arm) 90*. That is at address the right palm is vertical (perpendicular) to the Inclined Plane and at the top of the back stroke, the palm is facing out, away from your body but flat against the inclined plane.

For hitters the 'Turn' or rotation is continious from address to top.

For swinger the 'Turn' or rotation is completed by time the back stroke is half completed, about half way up.

The concept of idea of the right palm being in a poistion like a waiter holding a try is almost correct. Yes you want the right wrist bent, but you want is bent to be laying flat on the inclined plane not facing stright up or parallel to the ground.

I don't recall TGM using the term 'fanning' in describing the back stroke motion. The term 'Turn' was used to describe the rotation of the hands, where a clockwise motion is made.

Maybe someone can point me in the direction for a complete description of 'fanning', I would be interested.

Found post referencing 'fanning' 10-3-A the punch stroke. Matt's description that the elbow is semi-fixed and the forearm move toward the ball sounds reasonable. A fanning motion vs other motions.

What is swivel
 

That is along the lines of what I quessed fanning was. I related it to the tips I have read about rotating the forearms in the back and through swings.

I should have asked this at the same time.
Part two of my question, what is swivel or swival, not sure of the spelling.

<<From address position (Impact Fix of Adjusted Address) to the Top position you will 'Turn' the right arm (hand, forearm, arm) 90*. That is at address the right palm is vertical (perpendicular) to the Inclined Plane and at the top of the back stroke, the palm is facing out, away from your body but flat against the inclined plane.>>

Martee~

The postion of the hands at the top is a present area of study for me and I am trying to confirm that Hitters/Swingers are or are not in the same positon. Your post (flat against the inclined plane) suggests the right palm position is identical.

7-3 indicates the right forearm postion at the top differs for hitters and swingers and 10-18 indicates a difference in left wrist action for the variations associated with two basic patters. The 10-19-A and 10-19-B photos are not conclusive but could suggest a difference.


Any comments or references are appreciated.

DRW

Re: What is swivel
 

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LSH,

To learn what a Swivel is, read all of Yoda's posts in this thread:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/v...ht=swivel#2212[/quote

Thanks, so I basically asked the same question that's been discussed several times already. Sorry about that!
So I would say that fanning and swivel are pretty much the same thing.

Small steps

Fanning and swiveling are not the same thing.

Swiveling is a left wrist motion. Fanning is a right forearm motion.

Yoda had a detailed explanation of FANNING on the TGM site.

Re: What is swivel
 

rwh~

I recall from Yoda's RF flying wedge teaching, moving the forearm to the left and right and not understanding the purpose. I am still unsure if this is a caused motion or results from the pickup combined with extensor action. My assumption is "rotating" does not reposition the right wrist from vertical to turned (4-C).

DRW

The fanning motion should occur as you pick the club up with your right forearm. It almost has to, because if you didn't you'd have your right elbow pointing up and behind you at the top.

Re: What is swivel
 

rwh~

<< By rotating, I'm refering to the swinging of the forearm from left to right, like a windshield wiper, except it's happening on an inclined plane.<<

I understand windshield wiper motion and after being shown a feeler gauge pack I see the comparison. Funny thing about words and images. I was trying to visualize something like a package of gum. :lol:

DRW

Swivel and fanning, independent yet connected motions ???
 

O.K. If swivel is the rotation of the left hand and wrist and fanning is the rotation of the right forearm so the right palm faces more upward are they independent moves or are both used together to get into the proper positions.

Steve

Are both movements used together?
 

Fanning is not rotating the forearm as if using a screwdriver. Fanning is a movement called "abduction" which means to move away from the body's mid-line.

Rest your right upper arm against the side of your chest, with your forearm horizontal. Keeping the upper arm against the side of the chest, move your right forearm to the right, away from the mid-line of the body. This is abduction. This is a "fanning" motion.
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rwh

Would that make Fanning more like this explanation below that was given in the other thread except it isn't the whole arm hinging from the shoulder it's the forearm using the upper arm as the hinge?

From another thread
wanole,

1. Extend your Left Arm directly in front of your Left Shoulder and parallel to the ground (horizontal). Put your Left Hand into a Karate Chop position.

2. Keeping your Left Shoulder and Body stationary, move the Arm back and forth, just like a gate would swing on its hinges. This is a horizontal hinge action.


Can / are both the swivel and fanning motions used in the backswing?

Sorry for being so dense
Steve

Re: Are both movements used together?
 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

TURN and FAN are Backswing terms and motions.
SWIVEL and ROLL are Downswing terms and motions.
The Left Wrist TURNS then ROLLS.
The Right Forearm FANS.

Hope that helps.