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golfnut215 01-20-2005 04:10 PM

Speed Chain
 
Has anyone here used the speed chain as a way of increasing clubhead speed? As a result of my lurking on the 4GEA.com site, I read about it and obtained one. I'm working with it, but haven't been able to really see a change because the weather has kept me from actually hitting golf balls much. Anyway, I'm curious if there are others who are working with this and as to any results you might have obtained.

FanofHogan 01-25-2005 03:45 PM

I've been following the posts on GEA as well. Did you measure your swing speed before you started with it? How do you do it basically? I mean do you do it like circuit training with weights where you do so many reps a day or every other day?

golfnut215 01-25-2005 05:15 PM

I've generally followed the suggestions of Trainchain on gea and do 6-10 reps, followed by a break, repeated 5 to 6 times every other day. I had my swing measured about a year ago and did not measure it again prior to starting with the speed chain, but I do feel that it has already helped a little and will help more as time goes on. My ss at the year ago time was hovering aroung 112. I do plan on getting retested in a couple of months to sse the status at that time and will report then. I like the logic of the device and do find that it works fine with my new TGM setup and hit motion. Let me know if you have any other questions.

FanofHogan 01-25-2005 05:17 PM

To me it looks as if it definitely would force you to swing on plane. That in itself would plug some power leaks and that would buy you some mroe speed. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my question.

ThinkingPlus 02-09-2006 04:14 PM

Updates
 
Any current status on how well this product works? Enquiring minds would like to know. :)

Homerson 02-11-2006 12:20 AM

I have one and believe it is a good product. I got it last year, but due to some back issues(from beforehand), I was reluctant to go full bore. Since working with it over winter as well as having 4 months free of back pain, have been able to get my swing speed up to 120mph, from about 108 this time last year.

My trainer has acquired 4 of these, and 4 torso burners, for his PT, and for his clients. He is a BIG believer!!! His reasoning apart from a 10 mph increase in one of the clients' swing speeds(104 - 114), is that it is 'the best thing out there' for efficient motor learning. That is, training to increase your swing speed is best done at similiar speeds you expect to swing the golf club at.

I also contend that it is a decent means to eliminating an over the top move in the golf swing as the chain will 'catch' if you make that move. So, if that's what you want...not good for Slammin Sam or K.J ...

Now, about that clubface...

ThinkingPlus 02-12-2006 01:28 AM

Hit of Swing
 
Homerson,

Do you hit or swing? Does the SpeedChain appear to work equally well for each motion? Thanks for the reply!

Homerson 02-12-2006 01:55 AM

Hi Steph,

I try to swing!!
I spent much of 2004 trying to impose some hitting ideas into a predominantly swinging proceedure, and didn't get too far, probably due to it being an unguided (mostly) foray into hitting.
I would expect that it is not for the hitters out there, but I would want to hear from a hitter who has tried it.

Regards,

mb6606 02-12-2006 12:01 PM

Speed Chain works for hitting or swinging. I suggest standing
on an 8-12" platform or stool while training.

ThinkingPlus 02-12-2006 02:00 PM

Thanks Much!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606
Speed Chain works for hitting or swinging. I suggest standing
on an 8-12" platform or stool while training.

Thanks. I am considering getting one. I'll have to figure out something to use as a platform.

Homerson 02-12-2006 02:22 PM

Milk crates for stability

mb6606 02-12-2006 08:29 PM

You can find a single plastic step stool at most hardware stores.

ThinkingPlus 02-12-2006 10:54 PM

Good Ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Homerson
Milk crates for stability.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606
You can find a single plastic step stool at most hardware stores.

Thanks. Both good ideas.

Yoda 02-13-2006 12:48 AM

Balance Trainer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThinkingPlus
Thanks. I am considering getting one. I'll have to figure out something to use as a platform.

For a real challenge, try the BOSU Balance Trainer from www.fitnessquest.com. Click on BOSU in the task bar. They've been at the PGA Show the past couple of years. Trust me, you won't be moving your head around a lot with this baby!

ThinkingPlus 02-13-2006 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
For a real challenge, try the BOSU Balance Trainer from www.fitnessquest.com. Click on BOSU in the task bar. They've been at the PGA Show the past couple of years. Trust me, you won't be moving your head around a lot with this baby!

I'll give it a look. Thanks.

BlackjackNY 02-13-2006 07:41 PM

Anti Sway?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
For a real challenge, try the BOSU Balance Trainer from www.fitnessquest.com. Click on BOSU in the task bar. They've been at the PGA Show the past couple of years. Trust me, you won't be moving your head around a lot with this baby!

Yoda,
As you might remember from the Links seminar last summer, swaying is probably my biggest swing fault. Will this product help?

Vandal 02-13-2006 11:35 PM

That speed chain looks dangerous as heck. Isn't the Speed Stik a safer alternative?

Homerson 02-14-2006 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vandal
That speed chain looks dangerous as heck. Isn't the Speed Stik a safer alternative?


Not if you do it right. Speed chain is great for loading, storing, and release.
Feel of lag, pivot, rotational componants, many more.

Speed stick has no clubhead feel, sweetspot feel, long....don't like it.

Yoda 02-14-2006 01:18 AM

Pivot Center Fixin'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackjackNY

As you might remember from the Links seminar last summer, swaying is probably my biggest swing fault. Will this product help?

Hi Blackjack,

I remember your action as if yesterday -- and have it on my computer! -- and the BOSUŽ absolutely will help.

I bought mine at the PGA Show last year -- it's under $100 but still not cheap -- and you can't stay aboard this baby if you Sway. The ol' Center of Gravity stays put or else! I feel it also helps build those mission critical 'balance muscles' so necessary for the stability of Zone One (Body Control). I now use it a couple of minutes several times a week while swinging a weighted Momentus Club in a very controlled 12-5-1/2/3 Action.

After stepping down from the BOSUŽ, keeping that Pivot Center fixed is a piece of cake!

P.S. We obviously don't sell the BOSUŽ, but if anybody is truly interested in it, PM me and I'll call them and push some sort of LBG discount.

jim_0068 02-14-2006 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homerson
I have one and believe it is a good product. I got it last year, but due to some back issues(from beforehand), I was reluctant to go full bore. Since working with it over winter as well as having 4 months free of back pain, have been able to get my swing speed up to 120mph, from about 108 this time last year.

My trainer has acquired 4 of these, and 4 torso burners, for his PT, and for his clients. He is a BIG believer!!! His reasoning apart from a 10 mph increase in one of the clients' swing speeds(104 - 114), is that it is 'the best thing out there' for efficient motor learning. That is, training to increase your swing speed is best done at similiar speeds you expect to swing the golf club at.

I also contend that it is a decent means to eliminating an over the top move in the golf swing as the chain will 'catch' if you make that move. So, if that's what you want...not good for Slammin Sam or K.J ...

Now, about that clubface...

12mph is BIG INCREASE in speed. I wouldn't say that is the average. Unless you are simply outta shape and your speed just goes down that much. For instance you had back pain which probably seriously hindered your speed.

Homerson 02-14-2006 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim_0068
12mph is BIG INCREASE in speed. I wouldn't say that is the average. Unless you are simply outta shape and your speed just goes down that much. For instance you had back pain which probably seriously hindered your speed.


Huge! The back pain was definitely a hindrance. I was up around 115mph beforehand, and with help from this site and Brian's and Brian, could account for some of the rest. I am getting older though!

I do stand by my endorsement, although I better shut shut up soon, lest y'all think I'm a spokesperson or something;)

Vandal 02-14-2006 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
Hi Blackjack,

I bought mine at the PGA Show last year -- it's under $100 but still not cheap -- and you can't stay aboard this baby if you Sway. The ol' Center of Gravity stays put or else! I feel it also helps build those mission critical 'balance muscles' so necessary for the stability of Zone One (Body Control)..

In the latest Golf Digest there is an article about how Ernie Els went about rehabbing his knee. On one of the pages he is standing on two things that appear similar to this product, one under each foot. He says it has really helped with his balance and to strengthen the muscles he needs to maintain a properly balanced swing.

powerdraw 02-14-2006 01:52 PM

can someone explain or describe how this speedchain works?

trainchain 02-14-2006 04:56 PM

speedchain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Homerson
Not if you do it right. Speed chain is great for loading, storing, and release.
Feel of lag, pivot, rotational componants, many more.

Speed stick has no clubhead feel, sweetspot feel, long....don't like it.

Homerson is correct. The speedchain does not differentiate betweeen contrasting teaching methods because it follows any movement your hands and arms make. Therefore, you are just making those golf specific muscles stronger and faster. It also is the only device I know of that meets the 4 specificty laws of training for speed. A hitter or swinger would benefit.

comdpa 02-14-2006 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerdraw
can someone explain or describe how this speedchain works?


There you go JJ, writeup about the SpeedChain

mb6606 02-14-2006 11:13 PM

The speedchain has another benefit. It can be used to strengthen the rotator muscles. Do circles, figure 8's, tennis back hands and finally overhead throws. Rubber bands, light weigths do not compare since you cannot get close to the range of motion the speedchain offers.


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