HITTING & SWINGING STICKMAN
 

Everyone,

Let me introduce you to Stickman. The following is what I do on those late nights when I am not reading the forum. I had fun doing it and would like everyone to enjoy it to. I don't claim to be an artist so don't laugh.

By no means is he perfect, but it is interesting to see some of the differences and samenesses between Hitting and Swinging. I thought we could have some fun and learn at the same time. So, I welcome all comments and corrections. Let's try to make him perfect.

Have Fun.

Forever Hitting,
Hunter

Hunter,
Very Nice work!!!!....I think for the most part your dead on...You might want to reconsider the start-up and backstroke portions as preferences to the selected stroke pattern...

.For Instance... A Swing procedure it might be a possibility for the swinger to "swivel" the Left Wrist for Standard Wrist Action at Start -up so the Hands arrive into a "Parallel to the Plane" alignment, which "SETS-UP" for the swingers Wrist -throw Trigger Type and Sequenced Release Motionduring the downstroke and release intervals.

For the Hitter ...he might "carry" the Single Wrist Action via the selected Hinge Action from the start -up with the "Fanning" and "Pick-up" of the Right Forearm to the Assembly Point at the Top Of the Delivery Line.

However, these are merely preferences....You can Full Sweep from the Beginning of the stroke, Random Sweep, somewhere in between or Snap at the End as beautifully illustrated with the Stickmen!!!!

Great work ....There is more power in Pictures than in mere words....Words can be a Curse!!!!

Annikan

Thank You
 

Annikan,

Thanks for the kind words. I totally agree with you, there are lots of ways to do it. We are a little limited with a stickman. I will take note and try to apply your suggestions.

Forever Hitting
Hunter

Stickman's Strokes
 

Great job, Rob. There is much to be learned from these simple stick figures. Thanks!

Very Nice.

The Stickman in golf has been here and used by many. Walter Hagen introduce Hogan to them. I seen Hogan's stickman and yours are way better.

What type of program do you use do yours. They are really good.

Thanks
 

Thanks for the comments, guys. They were created in Powerpoint.

Hunter

Stickman
 

Hunter

Thanks for posting Stickman.

Great work :D

Stick it Close!
 

Nice Job Hunter,

I agree with Annikan's assessment of the swingers start up swivel. Also, the hitter looks like it is using vertical hinging at follow through. Otherwise, top notch. Thanks!

Thats one steep shoulder turn ;)

ALL JOKING ASIDE

AWESOME AWESOME STUFF....

Glad you took the time

Here is "basic" question in this "advanced" thread: what is the origin of the different finish positions when impact looks identical?

Also, is a down-the-line verison in the works?

Thanks,
Lou

Different loading procedures
 

Rob,

This is really cool! Good job on these.

It occurred to me that the start down position for the hitter probably assumes he is loading on the way down, which if fine. I believe YodasLuke loads that way. When Yoda is hitting, he loads at the top and looks more like the swinging Stickman at start down.

So I guess there are variations out the ying-yang that could be drawn....

I like Stickman.

Hinging
 

I'm guessing this has to do with angled vs horizontal hinging. Look at the post impact pics and note the difference in clubface position. The swinger is horizontal hinging, while the hitter is using angled hinging.

This is why I have so much fun at work.

Great work, Rob.

If you slide the web page up and down at a certain speed you can see the "motion" especially release-impact-follow through. It reminds me of Steve Elkington's Five Fundamentals photos where you can flip the pages for the swing sequence.

The red shaft really helps this. Have you experimented with different colors or shaft thickness?

Great stuff! Just curious...did you consider axis tilt in the back stroke and end/top frames? The reason I asked is I was studying the TGM Glossary and Axis Tilt defined is "Golf - To change the plane of the Shoulder Turn without moving the Head, the golfer must tilt the the Shoulder Axis by moving the Hips" I admit I have Axis Tilt fog at the present time.

Thanks much.

PChandler

Re: Different loading procedures
 

Trigolt,

I appreciate your comments. In the start down I was trying to show the difference between longitudinal and radial acceleration.

Hope I did.

Hunter

Re: Stick it Close!
 

Drewitgolf,

It is supposed to be angled hinging, couldn't figure out how to do it any other way. Will keep trying.

Hunter

Lou,

I did the finish this way because the right arm is always driving, which might produce an abbreviated finish.

Down the line could be tough. I may give it a shot.

Hunter

PChandler,

Axis tilt occurs in the start down. I apologize, the Hitter stickman has a little more axis tilt than the Swinger. I think the hitter is more correct.

Hunter

Gregg McHatton designed a program he calls, "Blobman" which can be loaded on your pc. It is a stick figure that you can move to any position and can be viewed from 3 different angles. Check it out at www.golfresearch.com

Very nice graphics to see clearly the differences between swinging and hitting. Thanks a bunch! :lol:

I showed this software program to Yoda when I was down for a session with him last November. I'd love to see a TGM version demonstrating Hitting and Swinging.

I showed this software program to Yoda when I was down for a session with him last November. I'd love to see a TGM version demonstrating Hitting and Swinging.

Sir Isaac Newton On Golf: "I'm Waiting!"
 

That you did, PH17. And The Incubator has been working overtime ever since!

There is a huge future in the visual illustration of the Golf Stroke. All the Laws of Force and Motion governing the Stroke have been known at least since the days of Sir Issac Newton. And Homer Kelley articulated their application thirty-six years ago in his first edition of The Golfing Machine.

Education and Freedom of Information are wondrous things, and The Internet is the Great Equalizer.

Ultimately, the Golf World will embrace that which is in its own best interest.