Tell me about the Taly
 

Saw this while viewing the Barclays thread. What does it do?? Does it really work?? Worth getting?? Work for hitters and swingers?? Any info appreciated.

The Taly
 

I think the Taly is a great training aid. It has helped my students master the Basic Motion, the Flat Left Wrist and Rhythm better than anything I've seen. We'll soon offer it for sale in our Pro Shop at a discount to our members. I strongly recommend the Taly and plan on shooting a short video on how I use it.

Thanks Lynn----wow, only took 32 minutes for a response! I'm having trouble keeping up with the pace here!!

I had problems setting up at address with it -I think I wore it wrong since checking out his product web site- but loved using it with basic and aquired motion. You won't believe how unflat the left wrist can get without monitoring it into a feel.

Taly Ho!
 

That's the point, Mike.

When the Left Wrist is Bent ("Address Hands") the forward-leaning Taly ("Impact Hands") and perpendicular-to-the-line Clubshaft conflict. I am always amused as I watch students trying to figure out how to 'untangle' the the two. Then finally, comes the dawn: They realize that they must move their Hands much more forward (so that the Taly and the Clubshaft are parallel). For the first time, they discover for themselves the proper Hands and Clubshaft Impact alignments.

Then, during the Stroke, they've got to maintain that relationship. For that to happen, the Hands cannot Quit (3-F-7-B); instead, they must keep moving throughout the Stroke. And that means the student must keep the Clubhead behind the Hands. Eureka!

In the initial training, I have students set up at Impact Fix -- there is no Taly / Clubshaft conflict there -- and execute the Basic Motion (12-5-1). This is consistent with Homer Kelley's advice to "Practice this [Major Basic Stroke] first at Impact Fix" (Magic of the Right Forearm / 7-3). We then expand that into Acquired Motion (12-5-2) and introduce Pivot Action to Power the Left Arm through.

:)

No problem addressed in Impact fix but at adjusted address it was awkward. I don't set up in impact fix except for chipping.
On the Taly site the inventor wore in it so the rod was more along the outer side of his forearm than over the back of the hand.

Learning Impact Alignments and the Major Basic Stroke
 

Mike,

The straight line Taly shaft alignment (with its Forward Lean) should be awkward at Adjusted Address. Impact Hands (7-8 ) are not Address Hands (7-9).

Regarding Fix as an Address alignment, we were practicing a chipping stroke, were we not? And here, given the minimum Stroke constraints, the Impact Address (10-9-B) is a viable alternative to Standard Address (10-9-A), especially in light of Homer's advice to practice Basic Arm / Elbow Action from Fix (Major Basic Stroke / 7-3).

The particular emphasis of our Barclays clinics was Educated Hands and their Impact Alignments. In the short time available, students learned to set the Body and Hands in their Impact alignments and then swing the Arms and deliver the Hands (via the Pivot: "Mark time . . . Right, Left; Right, Left") through Impact. And here, the Taly was an invaluable aid.

:thumright

Is it worth getting? My answer would be to buy it in bulk in case you lose it or someone steals it from you. Thanks to Lynn I was able to present the Smart Stick at the Barclay's where I was introduced to the Tally. The only negative I have to offer is that I did not invent this great product. I witnessed more people use the Tally and instantly make a dramatic improvement.

Yes, you are right Lynn, Impact alignments were the focus, but I didn't drill basic motion with the class - I only had a chance to "fool around' with it between classes and naturally wanted to test drive it in my full swing address position. It is a wonderful aid and should be basic gear in all tgm classes. It educates hands, even for those that think their hands are educated would benefit.

in business news today...
 

local Georgia dowel supplier Home depot suffered a major downturn in demand due the Taly Golf Training aid:laughing9

Dowel Dinosaurs
 

Actually, sd, Home Depot cratered last year when I abandoned the now outdated dowel technology in favor of relective marker poles. Since Home Depot stores in Atlanta don't carry the particular model I favor -- they do in Virginia, Washington, DC, and New Jersey -- that business went to Lowes (which fact was immediately reflected in the market price of their shares). :eyes:

Why did I make the switch? First of all, the product is nonbreakable and pointed and thus makes a good intermediate 'target' to insert a few yards down the target line as an aid for "taking dead aim" (or to start 'right of' or 'left of' when practicing fades and draws). Also, the pointed end makes it great for establishing the Plane Angle and forward leaning Clubshaft angle. It doesn't warp, so it makes for accurate Plane Line tracing -- works great with the Taly on the inside of the right forearm :thumright -- and identifying the Angle of Approach.

The recommended Yoda Starter Kit includes five markers in two different colors (to further differentiate Plane Line, Stance Line and Target Line). In Georgia, the markers sell for $1.99 apiece, so you can buy a complete set of five for $9.95. Caveat emptor: The price varies by region, so expect to pay up as you move north of the Mason-Dixon Line. I found that out the hard way last week in New Jersey as I loaded up for my Barclays Academy and was held hostage at $2.68 apiece! So, for the 25 markers I bought, I had to ante up an additional $17.25. Outrageous, I know, but in the end, well worth every penny.

:laughing9

I remember when we got badminton rackets, too! Glad I still have some of the old wooden dowels- they still work great assembling the flying wedges and finding the magic of the right forearm approach.

Yoda for those of us in the UK, could you elaborate on the starter kit, and especially how you go about setting up said starter kit.

Did I notice Justin Rose at Gleneagles with one of the markers?

Align Your Machine At Cuscowilla
 

Gp,

It never ceases to amaze me how many uses I find for the markers -- or anything else I can use to make invisible straight lines visible.

To illustrate some of the many uses, I'll shoot a couple of 'real time' vignettes during our LBG Homecoming Classic at Cuscowilla (October 9-12). By the way, we still have space available ($1,595 now -- :thumright -- $1,895 after September 15th). http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/cmps_in...page=workshops


MESSAGE TO ALL:

If you love golf . . .

And if you can afford it . . .

Then you must be there!

In the history of The Golfing Machine, there never has been anything remotely close to this format and its attending domestic and international expertise. And the same crew that just a week ago taught more than 800 private clients at The Barclays will be at Cuscowilla to teach you!

All at a bargain price I personally guarantee you will never see again.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=5630

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=5459

Come be with us.

It will be a golf experience you will never forget.

Oh, and about that "if you can afford it" mention above: In January 1982, the last thing any prudent person would have put on Young Yoda's 'afford' list was a 3,000-miles-away visit to the then unknown Homer Kelley. Well, I figured out a way to make it happen, and it changed my life, and with it, countless others.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/cmps_in...page=workshops

:golf:

"Make invisible straight lines visible."

That is what it is all about.

If only Yoda!

I'm bringing Guru to Ireland before he heads onto the swamp. I should have arranged to meet him at your place!

If the dice roll the right way in the next few weeks I'll jump on a plane and be there!

This gadget's been around for a whle and the inventor makes some pretty bold claims - 300 yd drives, not "swinging" (?) arms, mental focus, etc....anything to those statements or does the Taly merely help one to educate their hands withresulting improvement?

Cup

Different Colors
 

Does anyone know why there are different colors? I was wondering if they were different sizes? I'm going to order one but can't find any info on why there are 3 colors.

I believe he states in a video the color is user preference.

Hmmm..........

Do they do them in Pink?:redface: ;) :laughing9

they are the same. I believe the white one is 10 bucks cheaper. Go figure.

price of taly?
 

lynn:
do you have a discounted price on the taly yet? i see the white banded version is 69 dollars on the taly site. can you beat that? thanks

Taly Time
 

We do, and I thought this had all been set up. Give us 'til Monday, and we will publicize the appropriate promo code and link.

In (On) My Bag (Santa's Sock)
 

:) Price was $69_no problem with that. I believe it is on/fitted properly but how to use is really not that clear. Anyone not attending Yoda's classes having the same questions_suggestions?

DRW

we're hoping there will be a clip up soon. Javier is working on one I believe.

Expectations
 

Thanks. For now I am disappointed. But, Santa's sock also contained Alignment Golf, a once in a life time lesson.

DRW

once in a lifetime maybe, but happily you can watch it a couple of times a day if you want!:)

LBG Discount
 

Does anyone know what the price of the taly mindset is with the LBG discount?

Buying the Taly
 

We never were able to work out a decent discount. The necessary systems and procedures were just too complicated to put in place for the anticipated revenue.

I still strongly recommend the Taly and use it with virtually all new students. It is engineered well and, most importantly, gets the job done. So, it is worth the price, particularly if you buy the cheaper white model (there is absolutely no difference other than the color itself).

Be sure to put in the special LBG promotion code. If they know the order came from here, they will send a commission our way.

:salut:

Have you any plans to do a video on how you use the Taly?

I know Xavier was working on a clip but I haven't seen it yet. Anyone else fancy taking up the baton and producing something LBG could host?

I´ve sent it twice to your mail. Did you not get it this time either?

No

:crybaby:

I'll pm you with my email address again in case you have it wrong.

Purpose
 

If you ever understand this, please let me know.

DRW:(

understand what?

Look who's using the Taly
 

either that or he's going baton twirling later!!!

I know that Javier did a video and he tried to email it to me but it just never worked.

Have any of you instructors the time to put something together to show how we could get the best out of it?

info
 

the people that invented and are marketing the taly

are going to be working on an infomercial.....i have not used the product as of yet but am excited to do so

hjo

In the Gallery
 

The free video, Lynn Blake Golf at the Barclays 2008-Day 2,has some instruction on how to use the Taly.