Brian manzellas claims Tgm is wrong incomplete, nice try...
 

Brian manzella has taken the stance that he wants to upstage homer and in fact point out how he didn't have some wallywho biomechanics 'expert' and a 16,000 dollar trackman to help himlike 21st century manzella. Gimme a f'n break...

I have heard many claims about the books errors and yet have really only heard two arguments and instances that he claims are wrong

1. Tgm is wrong because trackman shows that the ball leaves the face perpendicular at the point of maximum deformation and not separation like homer claims...

this is suppost to be a ground breaking argument? Again gimme a f'n break...
Once the ball is compressed to it's maximum it begins to decompress and is essentially chasing away from the clubface, in other words maximum deformation and separation are essentially The same time, DUH the ball once compressed to it's maximum cannot be acted on anymore by the clubface the time that it takes a maximum compressed golf ball to separate the clubface is such a tiny frame of time, fractions of a millisecond, to say that the difference between maximum deformation and separation are at al different is ridiculous and has absolutely no real argument. End of story

2. Tgm is wrong because homer said low point is at the left shoulder, when truly the lowest point of the clubheads arc can be anywhere.

Seriously? Again to a person who has no knowledge of Tgm can only read manzellas jive that Tgm is old and he is new not actually realizing that he has no real arguments to contrast the supposed old science. Of course the low point can be anywhere! DUH but if we are to have any kind of systematized way of controlling the golf ball and altering ball position for a given effect the geometry should be set for most full shots that the lowest part of the swing should be under the left shoulder, the hinge. Also the center point of the stroke doesn't have to be the head it can be anything, Brian , because he knows I will refute his claims on his own forum and for fear of his followers learning the truth , he has permanently banned me from his forum.

Nice try Brian get back to me when you have any sort of real arguments.

Nice post! Totally agree.

Same as his buddy Michael Jacob claiming that he does not believe in Right forearm takeaway and more...

They were "Doctors" of TGM. They wanted to be known as the greatest teachers in the business. While involved with TGM, their competitors were folks like Lynn Blake. Finding something different to teach was probably a good plan. :-)

Kevin

Originally Homer deemed that GSED's would be awarded to A.I.s who "could do what I do". As the years went along and the need for growth , expansion presented itself Homer started to grant GSED's on a more honorary basis. For meritorious contributions to the brand if you will. Latter day owners had their own reasons for awarding GSED's.

Put simply some of the "Doctors" were confused by Homers ideas and came to the wrong interpretation of things. Cant say I blame them given the yellow book of riddles that it is. But these erroneous ideas, things, have a life.

So there's Doctors and then there's Doctors who approached being able to do what Homer could do, understand. This web site is a tribute to the latter level of knowledge.... mixed in with some other complimentary stuff of course.

Being a GSED does not mean you understood Homer fully. Sadly.

Right on Bro!!!

Doctors In the House
 

Homer Kelley awarded only two GSEDs. One to Ben Doyle, as the first Authorized Instructor. Then to Bobby Clampett, Doyle's student, as the first recognized TGM performer.

Sally Kelley, his widow, awarded a number of GSEDs over the next twenty years (on the basis you have mentioned above). Subsequent owners, first co-owners Joe Daniels and Danny Elkins, then Joe solo after arbitration and a buyout, awarded only two more, both on the same day. One to me and another to Brian Manzella. He was shocked to learn of the award. I was not.

Why?

Because I was with Danny and Joe the day and minute it happened. In fact, I was the catalyst who made both awards happen. This is the 'rest of the story' -- details omitted -- just one more thing BM thought he knew, but did not.

Lampoons and Lollipops
 

The Right Forearm Takeaway (Zone 2) is just another example of a TGM concept tossed onto the trash heap by those who think they understand, but do not. Detractors look at such concepts in isolation -- often imperfectly -- and without regard to how they integrate with other Stroke Components, e.g., the Pivot (Zone 1) and the Plane (Zone 3). Their arguments evidence their ignorance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLLSq...e_gdata_player

RFT easy as 123!
 

Taking doxycycline and feeling like heck, I can still RFT and Hit my driver 240 yards down the middle with a slight fade or as I wish. Does not get easier! :read:

BM cannot sell ideas in packages I guess if he cannot claim to be unique or inventive. :confused:


ICT

Personally, I am not interested in others' understanding, loose interpretation, revised interpretation or disclaimer of what we have here. Here is where I learn and belong.
Thanks to Yoda, the sisterhood and brotherhood who contribute daily to this quest.

didnt micheal jacob try his best to buy TGM rights etc and was outbidded.


im also with yoda trying his best and doing veryy well at keeping TGM alive and a vast aray of devotees!

:salut: :salut: :salut: :)

Quacks
 

Jacobs, who doesn't know the difference between Aiming Point and Impact Hands Location :confused1 , is one of those dubbed GSED by Mrs Kelley, and Da Manz has forgotten about leaning up against a tree in Carmel, Cal, crying like a baby :sad2: because he couldn't compress a golf ball until a real GSED, Ben Doyle, performed emergency TGM on him!

They both, hypocritically, continue to use the title GSED. They should be using the title GSEQ.

One thing is for sure I'll play Jacobs or manzella any day anytime I guarantee I will outdrive them and outscore them. Why is jacobs a gsed? I don't think manzella is using the gsed title anymore

Just for the sake of accuracy, something not so important on message boards, both relinquished their GSED's in the past year and are no longer part of TGM.

Thanks - I stand corrected. They did the right thing. :salut:

I was last on the BM forum a year or so ago, at which time they were both using it.

He told me on his forum he was going to buy the TGM, but I do not remember why he did not purchase it.

Ocean View
 

Simple answer: Joe Daniels ain't selling. Not to Mike. Not to anyone. At least not at a price anyone in their right mind would pay.

And so it sits.

But, Joe's got the right idea. In the VERY long term . . .

Beachfront is beachfront.

:salut: