Stroke Sequence - Ben Hogan
 

Heres one I made this morning of Hogan from a video clip which I found posted by 6bee1dee :)

Beautiful
 

A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

Thank you.

Hoganizing
 

=D> :D

Re: Beautiful
 

Well put. Man that guy's too good.

BTW holy elbow plane.

Notice how long his back foot stays down in this one too. Not like his driver swing sequence.

-Paul

Now that we're on the topic of Ben Hogan...

I have a question...

How did Hogan initiate his backswing?

I can see he takes it inside and then shifts up on his backswing...but- shoulder turn takeaway to start his swing?

On video Hogan initiates the backswing by moving his chin about two inches to the right, just like Jack. I think in "The Fundamentals" Hogan mentions a clubhead-hands-shoulders-hips backswing train.

Then reverse the train on the downswing.

But does he initiate this train of movement with both hands, one of his hands, his shoulders?

Elbow Grease
 

We are seeing Elbow Plane here no?

Could somebody give a little pro/con on the Elbow Plane? Seems to work for Henny Bogan and Chad Campbell. Per 10-6-A Elbow - it is the "flattest" normal Plane that will still allow the Right Forearm to be On Plane during Impact. This produces a very flat Angle of Attack (2-B) wich reduced Backspin and should be avoided for Short Shots unless it is also part of your Full Stroke Pattern. The Elbow Plane allows maximum #3 Accumulator requiring earlier Release per 6-N-0.

Interesting that Hogan was the poster boy for late release and #2 Accumulator Lag AND swung on the Elbow Plane.

How 'bout it teach?

Engrained Elbow Plane?
 

Maybe it was because he could find it in the dark?

I only suggest the possibility because of a vid clip I saw of him making a teeshot against Snead in a WW of Golf. He beat the pants off of Snead that day and commented that it was one of the best rounds he had played.

In the clip, he took his driver to End with it higher than the TSP. It esentially looked like the pop popular Squared Shoulder Plane. His Wedges and wrists didn't look that hot. Then at a split second at transition, he did an almost imperceptible hip bump.... and ONLY his hands and club moved (dropped a good 6 inches to the TSP). Suddenly his right wrist was bent 90*, the left wrist was supinated, the left arm was on plane with the right arm supporting it at 90*. From there the full Pivot and hand Action brought him down and through on the Elbow Plane. Amazing.

At the time I was just starting TGM and it just reinforced the sense of working on a Basic Stroke that was a fractal of a Total Stroke that would be a Zero Shift Hit along the TSP. KISS for me. :)