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mgjordan 01-27-2005 06:20 PM

Angle of approach
 
I have tried for months to wrap my head around the arc of approach vs. the angle of approach. Is this laser the angle of approach?

http://homepage.mac.com/brianmanzell...rdownplane.jpg

henning 01-28-2005 06:38 AM

The Arc of Approach and the Angle of Approach can be seen on the ground 2-C-1 #3. The Arc of Attack and the Angle of Attack is on the Inclined Plane 2-C-1 #2B.

Henning

mgjordan 01-28-2005 05:08 PM

The laser is on the ground through the ball. Is that line an extension of the angle of approach through the ball? If the plane board wasn't there, wouldn't that line be the angle of approach?

henning 01-30-2005 03:12 PM

Yes, that line would then be on the ground and the Angle of Approach.

Henning

DDL 01-31-2005 09:55 AM

The laser line on the ground looks to about 45 degrees to the right of the target line. Is that really the amount of down and out one must direct the right shoulder, right forearm, right elbow, and lag pressure?

Since the clubface is open only 3 degrees at impact, that is why I thought down and out was faintly down and out. I wasn't taking the release interval into consideration, which would redirect the 45 degreee down and out angle of approach to 3 degrees by impact.

Great pic by Manz, if I am finally understaning this.

henning 01-31-2005 12:23 PM

Just to make clear. "Delivery Paths (7-23) guide the Hands but Delivery Lines are needed to guide the Clubhead and the Right Forearm (5-0). The true geometric Plane Line is the Basic Delivery Line. But it has a very useful Visual Equivalent - the curved blur of the Clubhead path during the Adress Routine and again through Release and Impact", which can be executed as an Arc of Approach or its equivalent the Angle of Approach straight line.

Yoda 01-31-2005 02:44 PM

A Warm Welcome To A Consumate Professional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by henning
Just to make clear. "Delivery Paths (7-23) guide the Hands but Delivery Lines are needed to guide the Clubhead and the Right Forearm (5-0). The true geometric Plane Line is the Basic Delivery Line. But it has a very useful Visual Equivalent - the curved blur of the Clubhead path during the Adress Routine and again through Release and Impact", which can be executed as an Arc of Approach or its equivalent the Angle of Approach straight line.

Welcome, Henning!

Folks, here is another one of 'those guys' you need to pay attention to. Henning is a Swedish PGA Professional and is his Section's 2005 Professional of the Year. He is also an Authorized Instructor of The Golfing Machine and is using his influence to change the face of Golf Instruction in Sweden.

Proud to have you aboard, Henning. Thanks for posting!

DDL 02-01-2005 06:33 AM

Hej henning!!

In non TGM terms, just how down and out is down and out, and how far to the right of the target line is the angle of approach for swingers? My belief is that at the end of the BS, if one constructed a line from the right shoulder to the ball, and laid that line on the ground, one would rotate the upper body and right shoulder on that line after the hip slide while keeping the pivot center motionless.


Tak

henning 02-01-2005 10:49 AM

Hej DDL!

You use the Angle of Approach or the Arc of Approach to guide the Clubhead and the right Forearm(5-0). This you will see on the ground.

The "Arc" is most compatible with the "On Line" Swing and the "Line" with the "Cross Line Hit" (7-23).

The Angle out toward right field depends on the Plane Angle. Flatter more out to right field and steeper less.

IMO I donīt think that many people use the Arc of Approach and the Angle of Approach. I think itīs easier to trace the true geometric Plane Line with your #3 pp (all three are Visual Equivalents).

What you are talking about is taking your right shoulder to the Turned Shoulder Plane and hopefully your hands too, and then your right shoulder and hands down on that Plane Angle. Itīs fine with me if you want to imagine this line on the ground if that helps you, but the Angle of Approach is the blur of the Clubhead path and not for the right shoulder.

DDL your swedish is not to bad. Thank you in swedish is tack. You missed a c. Tak is roof in swedish.

Sincerely,

Henning

6bmike 02-01-2005 12:02 PM

If I can add- Down and Out is not two moves but one move down an incline swing plane- preferably the one you came up on, out to the ball as the hands drive to the aiming point perparing to put #3 pp on the ball. I think some see it as a dip of the shoulder and then an out move to the ball. The shoulder rides the incline plane.


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