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milan 02-10-2006 07:34 PM

losing balance
 
Hi

I find that sometimes i lose my balance when hitting out to right field ie after i do the hip bump and hit the ball my right leg (i'm right handed)wants to take a step forward and follow through as well. Is this supposed to happen? Any assistance/suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Milan

EdZ 02-10-2006 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan
Hi

I find that sometimes i lose my balance when hitting out to right field ie after i do the hip bump and hit the ball my right leg (i'm right handed)wants to take a step forward and follow through as well. Is this supposed to happen? Any assistance/suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Milan

For most golfers, this is absolutely the direction to error in shifting your weight. Step through drills are some of the best IMO.

That said, you only want movement that is efficient - smooth and heavy - and of course, balanced.

Sounds like some setup and pivot work could be helpful to you.

Imagine you are going to break down a wall with your left shoulder, stay balanced, and hold your finish until the ball stops.

Practice without a club, or with a heavy club, just your hands - close your eyes, stay in balance.

Downplane force.

comdpa 02-10-2006 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdZ
For most golfers, this is absolutely the direction to error in shifting your weight. Step through drills are some of the best IMO.

That said, you only want movement that is efficient - smooth and heavy - and of course, balanced.

Sounds like some setup and pivot work could be helpful to you.

Imagine you are going to break down a wall with your left shoulder, stay balanced, and hold your finish until the ball stops.

Practice without a club, or with a heavy club, just your hands - close your eyes, stay in balance.

Downplane force.

Per 7-17, when you setup, you need to have enough weight on the heels so that you can momentarily lift the toes.

Why? Per 2-K: Any rotational motion induces a throwout action, pulling the centers of gravity of every moveable component.

YodasLuke 02-12-2006 03:34 PM

5-0, Elvis has left the building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by milan
Hi

I find that sometimes i lose my balance when hitting out to right field ie after i do the hip bump and hit the ball my right leg (i'm right handed)wants to take a step forward and follow through as well. Is this supposed to happen? Any assistance/suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Milan

I'm assuming that, when your balance is lost, you're stepping towards the ball with the right foot. One of the terms we use in TGM is Roundhouse. One of the many things that I have highlighted in my copy of TGM is found near the bottom of the page in 5-0: "That - failure to clear the Right Hip (Roundhouse) can initiate almost every alignment disruption, including SHANKING." That's a pretty bold statement!...almost every alignment disruption. Wow!

Simply from experience, when I see someone stepping towards the ball, you can take a look at the right hip. So many of us have been told to turn, turn, turn, in order to gain more power. Many look like Elvis doing a hip thrust towards the ball. I see many with their right foot completely on the toes before the hands have passed below the shoulder in the downstroke (another Elvis trait). I tell many that the right hip can either be a gateway or a roadblock. For most, it's the latter.

Your right shoulder isn't on plane until top. It's moved horizontally to get there and your right hip had to clear to do so. The right shoulder then starts a downward path on the inclined plane via the hip slide. The right shoulder does not return on the same horizontal path. If it does, you're over plane, you're hitting the back or the outside quadrant of the ball, and you'll have to steer as a result. :-&

If you look the way I think you look, I'd have you doing a Start Down waggle before every stroke.

Thank'u very much... :cool:

Yoda 02-14-2006 11:01 AM

All Shook Up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YodasLuke
I'm assuming that, when your balance is lost, you're stepping towards the ball with the right foot. One of the terms we use in TGM is Roundhouse. One of the many things that I have highlighted in my copy of TGM is found near the bottom of the page in 5-0: "That - failure to clear the Right Hip (Roundhouse) can initiate almost every alignment disruption, including SHANKING." That's a pretty bold statement!...almost every alignment disruption. Wow!

Simply from experience, when I see someone stepping towards the ball, you can take a look at the right hip. So many of us have been told to turn, turn, turn, in order to gain more power. Many look like Elvis doing a hip thrust towards the ball. I see many with their right foot completely on the toes before the hands have passed below the shoulder in the downstroke (another Elvis trait). I tell many that the right hip can either be a gateway or a roadblock. For most, it's the latter.

Your right shoulder isn't on plane until top. It's moved horizontally to get there and your right hip had to clear to do so. The right shoulder then starts a downward path on the inclined plane via the hip slide. The right shoulder does not return on the same horizontal path. If it does, you're over plane, you're hitting the back or the outside quadrant of the ball, and you'll have to steer as a result. :-&

If you look the way I think you look, I'd have you doing a Start Down waggle before every stroke.

Thank'u very much... :cool:

Hall of Fame post, Ted. Thanks!

Vandal 02-14-2006 12:45 PM

5-0 is the key for me
 
5-0 has really been the key for me lately and part of my recent success. If I don't properly get that right hip out of the way all kinds of bad things happen. Now there are a few reasons why my right hip gets in the way sometimes, but at least I now know what the heck is going on. And I even have a way to work on it.

12 piece bucket 02-15-2006 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YodasLuke
I'm assuming that, when your balance is lost, you're stepping towards the ball with the right foot. One of the terms we use in TGM is Roundhouse. One of the many things that I have highlighted in my copy of TGM is found near the bottom of the page in 5-0: "That - failure to clear the Right Hip (Roundhouse) can initiate almost every alignment disruption, including SHANKING." That's a pretty bold statement!...almost every alignment disruption. Wow!

Simply from experience, when I see someone stepping towards the ball, you can take a look at the right hip. So many of us have been told to turn, turn, turn, in order to gain more power. Many look like Elvis doing a hip thrust towards the ball. I see many with their right foot completely on the toes before the hands have passed below the shoulder in the downstroke (another Elvis trait). I tell many that the right hip can either be a gateway or a roadblock. For most, it's the latter.

Your right shoulder isn't on plane until top. It's moved horizontally to get there and your right hip had to clear to do so. The right shoulder then starts a downward path on the inclined plane via the hip slide. The right shoulder does not return on the same horizontal path. If it does, you're over plane, you're hitting the back or the outside quadrant of the ball, and you'll have to steer as a result. :-&

If you look the way I think you look, I'd have you doing a Start Down waggle before every stroke.

Thank'u very much... :cool:

Ted,

What did Homer mean exactly by "clearing the right hip?" Moving it parallel to the selected delivery line?

milan 02-15-2006 05:21 AM

Thanks for the help guys
 
The advice has helped. I've been doing the start down waggle and focusing on maintaining my body alignment (try to keep head stationary rather than going forward).

FYI I was stepping through with my right foot.

Rgds
Milan

comdpa 02-15-2006 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Ted,

What did Homer mean exactly by "clearing the right hip?" Moving it parallel to the selected delivery line?

Yes, moving it parallel to the selected delivery line per 7-12 is what Mr. Kelley meant.

For hitters, that would be a slide of the hips to 1st base.

For swingers, that would be a slide to 2nd base, if in fact the plane line and target line are parallel to one another.

bts 02-15-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan
Hi

I find that sometimes i lose my balance when hitting out to right field ie after i do the hip bump and hit the ball my right leg (i'm right handed)wants to take a step forward and follow through as well. Is this supposed to happen? Any assistance/suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Milan

I would make sure the existence of "LAG" on the top and have it sustained coming down and through, which not only takes care of the "physics" (acceleration and thrust or speed and effective mass), but also the "geometry" (kind of holding it on-plane).


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