ready,fire,aim
 

I am getting close but still confused--for a hitter is the first move down moving the right shoulder down its plane which will shift the hips or is it hip action moving the right shoulder ??

Hip- take out the slack of the upper body. All strokes start bottom up with Hip motion the key to the pivot- for me

jermax....
Per 5-0, just concentrate on getting the hands down and out on the inclined plane - everything else will follow. This in essence is the Hand Controlled Pivot.

Down, Out and Forward
 

Comdpa,

When everyone discusses down, out and forward. Down from where, out from what and forward of what. I have assumed (and we know what that breaks into) that down was from the top, out was from the center of the body, and forward was similar to through the ball.

Can you or someone else help?

The Clubhead Orbit
 

The 'Down, Out and Forward' refers to the On Plane orbit of the Sweetspot from The Top of the Stroke through the Low Point.

The Ball rests on the Ground opposite the player. The Sweetspot is up in the air -- Back, Up and In -- On Plane. From The Top, the Sweetspot must move Down to get to the Ball; it must move Out to get to the Ball; and it must move Forward to get to the Ball. Hence...Down, Out and Forward.

jermax and kmmcnabb,

Look at post #39...

Is this wrong?
 

Is this wrong? I see Yoda with a very defined pivot before the right shoulder becomes a backboard to shove off of.

Load With the Pivot
 

In Pivot Strokes, the Pivot Loads the Lag. Overcoming the initial Clubhead Inertia in the Start Down is a job for the big muscles of the Body.

Comdpa
Can't help thinking you are correct especially with the added weight of 6-G-0 "All motion is focused on driving the Hands—NOT THE CLUB—toward the BALL."

The Hands control the Pivot
 

Mike,

Per 6-M-1, the downstroke sequence is always knees, hips, shoulders, right elbow, left wrist uncocking and / or left hand rotation.

But it is the INTENT of bringing the hands down and out on-plane that will ironically bring about this sequence.

Food for thought - you will hardly see a good tennis player getting out of sync in their strokes. Is it any wonder that they focus only on what their hands are doing?

Its hard for most people to accept this line of reasoning until they play a round of tennis, observe their pivot reacting to the hands and then apply this procedure to their golf stroke.

Amateurs who try to trigger the downstroke in the sequence afore mentioned always manage to get it to fire the other way around.

Which brings to mind Mr. Kelley's timeless words, the hands are not educated until they control the pivot - 9-1