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bambam 04-28-2006 09:59 AM

Sequenced Release
 
I understand that the left wrist is cocked/uncocked by the right arm. My understanding of the sequenced release is that you are to uncock on plane (with palms facing the plane) prior to rolling. Here's what I don't understand...

The release swivel (is this the roll? maybe that's where I'm confused) is supposed to happen prior to impact.

The uncocking is supposed to happen before the roll.

But the right arm is supposed to be bent at impact, and the left wrist is supposed to be level. This would imply one is not uncocked at impact, so in a sequenced release the golfer wouldn't have rolled yet, and the clubface would be wide open, right? Or do you start to uncock then roll?

Bagger Lance 04-28-2006 01:34 PM

Ben,

Read 6-M-1.

"Centers and Accumulators can be sequenced, overlapped, omitted, emphasized, triggered, and timed as the players understanding and skill permit."

"Increase Overlap to increase Thrust - decrease Overlap to increase Velocity."

How about this?...

In hitting, uncocking and roll are simultaneous.
In swinging, the huge momentum of the #2 accumulator (uncocking) is transfered to the #3 accumulator (rolling)through impact.

It is sequenced by first uncocking on plane intentionally (non-automatic), or unintentionally (automatic) by CF. It may feel like you still have some uncocking left after impact and you probably do. But ALL of the accumulator momentum (4,2,3) was transfered to the ball through impact.

The follow through takes care of any residual level to uncocked uncocking, and the finish swivel takes care of the residual roll and recocking.

Bagger

Mathew 04-28-2006 02:24 PM

The amount of wristcock determines how much of a circle the no.3 accumulator motion creates. The two are very co-ordinate. Remember the left arm is not onplane so the uncocking motion alone of no.2 only will actually be offplane. It is a sequenced release because you still have to roll back to the vertical plane of your hinge action after no.2 goes back to its level condition, your no.3 is constantly adjusting to the plane and as soon as you release no.2, no.3 will go into a state of rolling as apposed to turning. Infact the more that you want a maximum trigger delay, your hands will actually be in a state of still turning until the release motions of no.2 and 3 take place. Also infact, if you have a full sweep loading action, your actually going to have to roll as the hands go up the plane....

efnef 04-28-2006 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathew
The amount of wristcock determines how much of a circle the no.3 accumulator motion creates. The two are very co-ordinate. Remember the left arm is not onplane so the uncocking motion alone of no.2 only will actually be offplane. It is a sequenced release because you still have to roll back to the vertical plane of your hinge action after no.2 goes back to its level condition, your no.3 is constantly adjusting to the plane and as soon as you release no.2, no.3 will go into a state of rolling as apposed to turning. Infact the more that you want a maximum trigger delay, your hands will actually be in a state of still turning until the release motions of no.2 and 3 take place. Also infact, if you have a full sweep loading action, your actually going to have to roll as the hands go up the plane....

What a clear, concise explanation! You are getting really good at this! :)

bambam 04-28-2006 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
Ben,

Read 6-M-1.

"Centers and Accumulators can be sequenced, overlapped, omitted, emphasized, triggered, and timed as the players understanding and skill permit."

"Increase Overlap to increase Thrust - decrease Overlap to increase Velocity."

How about this?...

In hitting, uncocking and roll are simultaneous.
In swinging, the huge momentum of the #2 accumulator (uncocking) is transfered to the #3 accumulator (rolling)through impact.

It is sequenced by first uncocking on plane intentionally (non-automatic), or unintentionally (automatic) by CF. It may feel like you still have some uncocking left after impact and you probably do. But ALL of the accumulator momentum (4,2,3) was transfered to the ball through impact.

The follow through takes care of any residual level to uncocked uncocking, and the finish swivel takes care of the residual roll and recocking.

Bagger

Thank you, sir. This is exactly what I was looking for.

bambam 04-28-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathew
The amount of wristcock determines how much of a circle the no.3 accumulator motion creates. The two are very co-ordinate. Remember the left arm is not onplane so the uncocking motion alone of no.2 only will actually be offplane. It is a sequenced release because you still have to roll back to the vertical plane of your hinge action after no.2 goes back to its level condition, your no.3 is constantly adjusting to the plane and as soon as you release no.2, no.3 will go into a state of rolling as apposed to turning. Infact the more that you want a maximum trigger delay, your hands will actually be in a state of still turning until the release motions of no.2 and 3 take place. Also infact, if you have a full sweep loading action, your actually going to have to roll as the hands go up the plane....

Thanks, Mathew. So if I'm understanding this correctly as it relates to Bagger's post, as long as I release #3 after I let #2 go, it would be a sequenced release. I can adjust the timing/overlap to increase/decrease thrust and velocity.

Mathew 04-28-2006 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambam
Thanks, Mathew. So if I'm understanding this correctly as it relates to Bagger's post, as long as I release #3 after I let #2 go, it would be a sequenced release. I can adjust the timing/overlap to increase/decrease thrust and velocity.

Basically no.3 is actually released at the same time as no.2 in order to keep the club on plane yet no.2 'runs out' first and goes back to level and yet it is sequenced because you still have no.3 to swivel back to vertical.

There is an overlap of 2 and 3 in the sequenced release in order to keep the club on plane - it is however the 'rate' of how these things are released, is what makes it sequenced.

bambam 04-28-2006 07:58 PM

so in a simultaneous release, not only are 2 and 3 released at the same time, they also 'run out' at the same time?

Mathew 04-28-2006 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambam
so in a simultaneous release, not only are 2 and 3 released at the same time, they also 'run out' at the same time?

Yes, The wristcock and wristroll release is simultaneous - they 'run out' or release together....

I remember Yoda saying that Homer Kelley said that the plane of is the heart and soul of the golf stroke because everything must comply with it. Your hand may be turned towards the plane but it is not on the plane - it goes into the plane at an angle - the only way that the golfers flail uncocking alone is going to be on plane is if either the left arm is also flat against the plane which doesn't happen in a golf stroke. Instead that swivel joint has got to work in conjunction with the wrist uncocking.

bambam 04-29-2006 08:56 AM

Thanks Mathew!


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