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cometgolfer 07-06-2006 09:20 PM

Delayed Hip Action For Those "Tweeners"
 
I've been playing well over the last month (shooting a 66 and 68along the way) as more Machine concepts have become clear(hinging and rhythm in particular). One thing I have been struggling a bit with is how I handle those "tweener yardages" when I can't hit my stock shot. This has been particularly true with the shorter irons and I'm just not getting it close enough from 140 and in.

I'm a swinger and seem to have a difficult time regulating thrust for these types of shots. Has anyone tried using delayed hip action to preset backswing length as a distance control technique? Any advice or things to look out for when doing this? I messed around with it at the range this evening with encouraging results.

CG

Daryl 07-06-2006 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cometgolfer
I've been playing well over the last month (shooting a 66 and 68along the way) as more Machine concepts have become clear(hinging and rhythm in particular). One thing I have been struggling a bit with is how I handle those "tweener yardages" when I can't hit my stock shot. This has been particularly true with the shorter irons and I'm just not getting it close enough from 140 and in.

I'm a swinger and seem to have a difficult time regulating thrust for these types of shots. Has anyone tried using delayed hip action to preset backswing length as a distance control technique? Any advice or things to look out for when doing this? I messed around with it at the range this evening with encouraging results.

CG

Well, obviously you have some problems to work out and certainly it will take some time using that approach. Call me when you start shooting 62. Yoda started a Secret Society (LBG-S.S.) among the better players on this site with which he shares Short Game Secrets sworn to him by HK himself with the promise that they be shared only with those who learned to score 62 or better. So, keep trying my friend. :liar:

12 piece bucket 07-06-2006 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl
Well, obviously you have some problems to work out and certainly it will take some time using that approach. Call me when you start shooting 62. Yoda started a Secret Society (LBG-S.S.) among the better players on this site with which he shares Short Game Secrets sworn to him by HK himself with the promise that they be shared only with those who learned to score 62 or better. So, keep trying my friend. :liar:

Does it matter which side you shoot 62 on?

Daryl 07-06-2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Does it matter which side you shoot 62 on?

Hi 12 Piece,

We missed you at the last Secret Workshop. We learned to use lag pressure to control less than full stroke ball distances. You missed a great meeting. We varied the Lag pressure to make the ball travel various distances in 5 yard increments. :)

12 piece bucket 07-06-2006 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl
Hi 12 Piece,

We missed you at the last Secret Workshop. We learned to use lag pressure to control less than full stroke ball distances. You missed a great meeting. We varied the Lag pressure to make the ball travel various distances in 5 yard increments. :)

And you ain't tellin' right? Koolaid Cult.

Daryl 07-06-2006 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
And you ain't tellin' right? Koolaid Cult.

Don't tell anyone.

cometgolfer 07-06-2006 10:41 PM

Ok ok, I'm not trying to be pompous. Just giving credit where it's due, and my efforts to apply TGM concepts have gone a long way in improving my ball-striking and consistency. That's why I like TGM and this forum, it's not about the same old instruction that's ALL geared to the high handicaps and how to fix a %$&# slice!

I've messed around with hitting for the 130 yards and in shots but wasn't sure how good an idea it was to flip flop between the hitting and swinging. It seemed easier to control lag pressure with a hitting approach, but I thought I'd give the delayed hip action a try as a way to regulate lag pressure when swinging.

CG

Daryl 07-06-2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cometgolfer
Ok ok, I'm not trying to be pompous. Just giving credit where it's due, and my efforts to apply TGM concepts have gone a long way in improving my ball-striking and consistency. That's why I like TGM and this forum, it's not about the same old instruction that's ALL geared to the high handicaps and how to fix a %$&# slice!

I've messed around with hitting for the 130 yards and in shots but wasn't sure how good an idea it was to flip flop between the hitting and swinging. It seemed easier to control lag pressure with a hitting approach, but I thought I'd give the delayed hip action a try as a way to regulate lag pressure when swinging.

CG

We're just having a little fun. Nice Scores. Really Impressive. I only wish I could do that. However, I have found #3 pressure point or #2 to work the best and give it a lot of pre-shot visualization. Lag is feel, feel is lag.

jim_0068 07-06-2006 11:04 PM

You have to learn how to vary your lag pressure so that you vary the distance. Hard to explain on a website.

Once you can control how much lag pressure you create (as a swinger) you can dial in those distances better.

cometgolfer 07-06-2006 11:10 PM

Daryl/Jim,

I understand how lag pressure will affect distance. Is it simply a matter of getting more in touch with #2 and # 3 PP's through practice or is delayed hip action a viable approach to varying lag pressure. Seems like I would only be able to create so much lag from a slightly pre-turned hip position versus making a full turn. (Uh-oh, that's starting to sound like a pivot-controlled hands procedure). :(

CG


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