Please Compare and Contrast the Arc of Approach and Angle of Approach . .
 

From a Geometric basis and a Procedural Basis . . .

They both connect Impact Point and Low Point and are on the Plane but not on the Plane Line . . . So what's the difference? Visually one is a curved line and the other is a straight line.

How does one incorporate the concept of the Parallel Pivot with these procedures? Angle of Approach the Pivot move cross-line . . . But what about Arc of Approach?

Both locate impact at the inside aft of the ball. But Angle of Approach has the club going "out to right field" . . . what about Arc?

How would a Swinger using Arc of Approach differ from one Tracing the Plane Line? Is the pivot and delivery different?

Cruising through the archives here. I really wish this great post had (could have? :happy3: ) some responses: I've been wondering about many of these same questions.

"""From a Geometric basis and a Procedural Basis . . . What does "Geometric basis mean and the same for Procedural basis???"

They both connect Impact Point Has initial contact, re-bound start and ball separation)and Low Point (What's clubhead path @ low point???) and are on the Plane (What plane???)but not on the Plane Line . . . So what's the difference? Visually one is a curved line and the other is a straight line. One is concept the other is reality!!!

How does one incorporate the concept of the Parallel Pivot What is parallel pivot???with these procedures? Angle of Approach the Pivot move cross-line . . . What line??? But what about Arc of Approach? The clubhead and clubface ONLY move on an arc of approach!!!

Both locate impact at the inside aft of the ball. But Angle of Approach has the club going "out to right field" . . . what about Arc Think about this statement!!!?

How would a Swinger using Arc of Approach differ from one Tracing the Plane Line? Perception!!!Is the pivot and delivery different?How does povot? and delivery differ???""""__________________
Aloha Mr. Hand

Follow-through!
 

Nice Jay! I'll add a few of my own- unrelated to yours.

Jay . . . good to see you posting! There are so few people that actually spent time with Mr. Kelley around we are blessed to have you here.

I could be wrong about this but the theoretical geometry is different in many cases from the actual procedure. In other words the geometry is based on a circle but the reality is the golf swing ain't a real circle. The hands don't really move in a straight and neither does the club.

But regardless of the geometry . . . there is an impact point and a low point right? And there is a theoretical line and an arc that connects the two right? These two points can be "guesstimated" before you begin your stroke? So if my procedure is to attempt to go down the straight line that connects the perceived impact point and low point it would change the plane line and plane angle . . . I think.

The concept of the parallel pivot showed up in the 2nd edition I think. He just said that the pivot motion should be parallel to the selected delivery line. So the what line question I was thinking that if you have a delivery line that is extended out to right field the hip motion would slide parallel to that line and not the target line.

What line? would be the the target line I reckon.

I'm with you on the clubhead only moving in an arc . . . but it can point at a straight line or cover it for a time period right?

I would think pivot and delivery would be different because you can hit a ball with no pivot right?

I was just trying to figure out if you were gonna monitor the visual path of the clubhead instead of tracing the plane line . . . would it feel more out?

Thanks!

B

Mike O = test tube baby

Ah!
 

You are no fun! Getting boring in your old age!

Now you done it . . . . as he climbs to the top rope . . .

The cause/effects of geometry and physics of loading/unloading with pitch vs punch elbow while maintaining the flying wedges.