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nuke99 12-02-2006 09:41 AM

The cause of Yips.
 
Arghh... the dreaded yips.

Any advise for arm push basic stroke?

Thank you very much ...

strav 03-26-2007 04:19 AM

Domination
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuke99 (Post 36625)
Arghh... the dreaded yips.

Any advise for arm push basic stroke?

Thank you very much ...

"The big trick in putting is not method the secret of putting is domination of the nerves. "
Henry Cotton.
If you find how to do that please let me know because I have some other strokes I would would like to try it on - like the drive off #1 for example. :)

dkerby 03-26-2007 05:49 PM

The "yips"
 
Per David Lee - Gravity Golf
Here's what happens. The problem begins when the takeaway is
made with the hands and arms instead of the back and sholders.
By not originating the takeaway, the shoulders and back will
usually be too relaxed when the takeaway begins. When the back
muscles are stretched by the arms going back, being elastic, they
(back muscles) will naturally rebound slightly when the top of the
backswing is reached. When the back muscles rebound they cause
the clubhead to rebound about an inch or so also. When this happens,
the TRUE top of the backswing is the position of the shoulders, arms
and the clubhead AFTER the rebound has occured. Not having
anticipated this rebound of the club, the brain senses that the delivery
is lever deficiency. In other words, the backswing is now TO SHORT for
the club to come up to adequate speed by the time it reaches the ball,
for the shot to reach the target. Sensing this leverage deficiency
coming into impact, (tighten) in order to make up the leverage loss,
and the results are disastrous! The ball will either explode off the
clubface and go to far, or the swing-plane reversal may cause the
player to hit behind the shot - possibly even double hit the ball.

Note: Some say that the procedure is pivot controlled hand instead
of hand controlled pivot? Both Jack N and Lee T have been to see
David Lee about putting.

comdpa 03-27-2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuke99 (Post 36625)
Arghh... the dreaded yips.

Any advise for arm push basic stroke?

Thank you very much ...


Yips are caused by Fear.

Fear is caused by the Unknown.

The Unknown is not knowing why your stroke works or doesn't.

strav 03-27-2007 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuke99 (Post 36625)
Arghh... the dreaded yips.

Any advise for arm push basic stroke?

Thank you very much ...

Interesting study on the yips by Charles H. Adler, M.D., Ph.D, of the Mayo Clinic Scottsdale (Ariz.), here

http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingC...Meeting/tb/892

vj 03-27-2007 07:54 AM

If you are using a push basic stroke.....practice straightening the right arm without the right wrist unbending. When I say practice it, I simply mean sit somewhere and practice bending and straightening the right arm without the right wrist unbending.

A spatial problem is probably the culprit of all yips....meaning the sighting systems of the body get confused and cause the hands to go places that you don't have control of. There is a field of study in this area and I am looking into it with a neuro-opthomologist.

I would stay away from "wild" concepts like a counter fall in the putting stroke. I find the only thing all that movement does is move low point around. I would also try different visual tricks, like looking at a spot in front of the ball, practicing with one eye closed, and practicing your hinge action with both eyes closed.

dkerby 03-28-2007 12:09 PM

Another Spin
 
Dave Stockton: "On the Yips" -I never suffered from the yips,
although shoulder putters argue that I am highly susceptible
to them. The reason I don't get the yips is because I use a
putter with a lot of loft, which prompts me to forward press.
In other words, the yips are solely created by jumpy nerves,
which can be exaggerated by "hitting" the ball instead of
stroking it. Sometimes they caused by poor mechanics,
which are in turn the result of using the wrong kind of
equipment. Simple as that.

On the waggle: "I must emphasize that making a forward press
and then stopping defeats the purpose. You essentially end
up starting again from a standstill. Instead, think of the forward
press as the start of the backstroke."

Seanmx 06-19-2007 11:10 AM

I think the cause is the same as a lot of bad shots. Throwaway and the urge the hit at the ball with the club head instead of the hands. The converse to this is then of course the quit stoke.

I think flip flopping between the two to prevent on or the other causes yips.

I think the route cause is mechanical and when it goes on for too long and becomes automatic it is then a mental problem

bts 06-20-2007 05:42 AM

Type of "Yips"
 
Type of "Yips".

asleep 06-20-2007 11:50 AM

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...psexcerpt.html

http://www.golfdigest.com/search/ind...ttingyips.html


There was a study done some time ago that identified the eyes jumping around in their sockets as characteristic of the yips. Some advocate moving the eyes to the leftmost part of the socket before putting. Your head straight down, eyes straight down, ball forward...then shift eyes left in their sockets to see ball/line before startup. Might be worth a try if it fits into your putting style.


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