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A Tale Of Two Thrusts

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Originally Posted by Trigolt

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Originally Posted by Yoda

Few have ever experienced the Feel of the Delayed Right Elbow Drive. Until they do, they will simply never understand...

When you say delayed right elbow drive, are you saying delaying the deliberate straightening of the right arm?

I thought we should be constantly applying extensor action throughout the entire motion, including the downstroke. How do you delay it then?

The Hitter's Extensor Action of the Right Triceps is a Below Plane Stretching Action (applied against the Left Thumb) that does not move the Left Arm. It is a Non-Accelerating Thrust that supplies Power Package Mass (6-C-0-2).

In contrast, the Right Elbow Drive is an Accelerating Thrust (6-C-0-1) directed On Plane (1-L-#10/#11) that actively Drives the Primary Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club) and Sweet Spot through Impact. This Motion is anything but a 'gentle Stretching' of the Left Arm. Instead, it is a decisive -- even rigid (7-1) -- Thrust! that Uncocks both the Right Elbow and the Left Wrist.

Make no mistake: It is the Basic Drive of the Hitter's Stroke.

Right Forearm And Tricep -- Incubator Twins

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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf

The driving action in right arm swinging or true hitting comes from the right forearm....per 1-F. The triceps supply muscle power but the trigger is the right forearm. I guarantee you, if you start focusing on your triceps to drive the club through impact you will eventually create a condition of automatic clubhead throwaway and generate flat golf shots....no power!!! IF you don't believe me....let her rip with tricep thrust. I believe you will not find one phrase in the book that says right tricep thrust.....you will find right tricep muscle power and right tricep speed....all thrusting comments are exclusively right forearm....just checkout section 7-3....right forearm thrust is mentioned and no where will you find right tricep thrust or a driving right tricep.

That's why section 10-20 is called trigger types...something has to trigger the release of the power package!!!

DG

The following six points may help those Incubating this issue:

1. The Right Triceps is useless without the Right Forearm. And vice versa.

2. Nowhere in The Golfing Machine does Homer Kelley suggest that the Golfer use the Right Triceps consciously to produce the Major Basic Strokes. Instead, he uses the Magic of the Right Forearm and Elbow.

3. The Golfer also uses the Right Forearm to monitor the "dynamically in-line" On Plane Feel (2-F) and the Three-Dimensional Tracing of the Straight Plane Line (2-N-O).

4. While the six published editions of TGM do not contain the exact wording Right Triceps Thrust, the intent is clear. That intent is made certain in the unpublished 7th edition's revision to page 38. A new Paragraph Three reads as follows and should be written into your Book:

"Power package Muscle Power is almost entirely Right Triceps Thrust straightening the Right Elbow to furnish both Extensor Action and #1 Accumulator Power."

5. Awareness of an Active Right Arm is achieved only through monitoring an Active Right Elbow (7-20).

6. The Hitter's fundamental Release Trigger is the Right Arm Throw (10-20-B). This pure Right Arm Push cannot be accomplished except by the Right Triceps and its instrument, the Right Forearm, and it cannot be monitored except through an awareness of an Active Right Elbow.

Love That Starbucks!

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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf

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6. The Hitter's fundamental Release Trigger is the Right Arm Throw (10-20-B). This pure Right Arm Push cannot be accomplished except by the Right Triceps and its instrument, the Right Forearm, and it cannot be monitored except through an awareness of an Active Right Elbow.

Yoda,

Can you clarify what Homer means by "Right Triceps and its instrument, the Right Forearm"....really, what does he mean by "instrument" that is gray terminology. TGM confuser terminology, only the writer can understand!!! It's a shame that Homer didn't recognized some of the subtle and in some cases major points of confusion that could have easily been identified with an asterisk next to the term and defined at the bottom of each page, this is a perfect example of one confusing term.

I think the right tricep thrust comment is potentially dangerous, just like the comment "a rotating downstroke body motion" (10-19-0) for swingers was bad news in the 5th edition. It's a shame this comment of right tricep thrust might confuse a number of readers, because up until the 7th edtion you only had right forearm thrust, now you will have both.

ok, then the muscles of the right forearm trigger the thrusting action of the right triceps....it's just semantics at this point. The body hasn't changed between 1983 and 2005.

The thought in the golfers mind should be in the muscles of his or her right forearm driving the right arm to a long right arm post impact. As Tomasello said....you should have the feeling the club is pulling you, drive that right arm (right forearm).

As Tiger said Hogan and Norman owned their swings....I definitely feel I own the understanding what should be the focus in "generating" right arm power....I experimented twice over a ten year span what should drive or thrust the right arm through impact.....the muscles of right forearm should be the golfers focus, the muscles of the right tricep will do their thrusting action in response to the action of the right forearm. And, the comment of the 7-3 proves it...."THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM", its not the magic of the right triceps....

I believe this comment still stands....the right forearm tiggers the release of the right elbow "allowing" the right triceps to apply their natural muscle power.

So, the right forearm traces the plane line, drives the power package to the release point (for hitters and right arm swingers), and triggers the release of the right elbow for non-automatic strokes.

And with that, I leave you with this last comment...right arm swingers are not switters. I would only call true swingers trying incorporate some kind of right arm power as switters. The right arm swing when properly executed should reside with the "true" swinging family or category!!!

DG

Whoa, DG. Ease off, my man!

First of all, regarding the word instrument, it was mine, not Homer's, so he's off the hook on this one.

And, just checking my Webster, the first definition is:

Instrument: a thing by means of which something is done.

So, the Forearm is the means by which the Right Triceps does its Pushing work. I had already stated that truism in Item #1 of my post, and I see nothing controversial about it. If you can find a way to make your Right Triceps functional without the use of your Right Elbow and Forearm -- or vice versa -- then you're operating with different machinery than the rest of us! But, aren't you saying the same thing, i.e., that the Right Forearm is the Golfer's means of 'taking care of business?' For the life of me, I can't see the problem here.

Regarding the Golfer's Feel localizing in the Right Elbow and Forearm (as opposed to in the originating Right Triceps) I don't think I could have been in more explicit agreement: Of course we Feel the Motion there.

Look, I just reached for my coffee cup, and without a second thought:

1. My Right Hand had an assignment;

2. The Shoulder Deltoid took care of the initial Transportation of the Arm and Hand; and

3. My Right Triceps finished the job with an extension of the Right Elbow.

Aaahh...

Love that Starbucks!

Finally, I have no problem with the Right Arm Swing. It is a bona fide catalogued TGM procedure practiced by many. Further, I have never labeled its proponents as Switters.

Now, they may get a twinge in their Elbow now and again and have to hustle down to the nearest CVS for an arm band....

Oh oh. Shouldn't have said that...

INCOMING!!!

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Just kidding, Dave.

Homer Kelley thought the Right Arm Swing was "a beautiful procedure." I'll dig out some audio over the next couple of weeks and see if we can't get it up on the site. Thanks for your passion on this subject and keep it burning.

We love ya man!