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spike 07-16-2007 09:16 PM

Putting Dynamics
 
Point me in the right direction if this question has already been asked.

Bobby Clampett said that if he could do it all over again he would use the #1 Imperative, FLW, in the putting stroke. Would this be the ultimate condition we would want to achieve while putting?

bray 07-16-2007 10:12 PM

I will leave some of the "heavies" to post more on this subject, but I'm sure Bobby knows what a geometrically flat left wrist is. So while he and Ben Doyle strive for a flat left wrist in putting, you can also have a geometrically flat left wrist, depending on the stoke's powersource and grip type.

Even the Claw/Saw can be geometricaly flat.

I hear Annikan's been doing a lot of putting instruction lately.

Sorting Through the Golf Nut's Catalog.

B-Ray

Yoda 07-17-2007 12:27 AM

Putting And the Flat Left Wrist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spike (Post 44046)

Point me in the right direction if this question has already been asked.

Bobby Clampett said that if he could do it all over again he would use the #1 Imperative, FLW, in the putting stroke. Would this be the ultimate condition we would want to achieve while putting?

Homer Kelley thought so, and so do I.

Here I am using an Arm Stroke with the Right Elbow actuating the Left Arm and Club (Primary Lever Assembly). The Body is motionless, especially the Right Shoulder (10-3-E). The Arms are in their normal condition -- the Left Arm is always straight and the Right Arm is always bent until the end of the Follow-Through (6-A-4) -- and the Wrists are always in their Impact alignments, i.e., the Left Wrist is Flat and the Right Wrist is Bent (5-A-1 & 2).

For the Shoulder Stroke version (with virtually identical Arm and Wrist alignments), check out Phil Mickelson's action. Here the Right Elbow -- Phil's Left Elbow -- is frozen (Zero #1 Accumulator) and the Power Package is motivated solely by the rocking of the Shoulders.

That said, Bray is right in saying that a 'geometrically-flat' Left Wrist is a perfectly acceptable alternative. As long as the Left Arm and Club go through Impact together -- even if the Left Wrist is visually Bent -- then the Stroke will exhibit Rhythm, i.e., the Hands and Club will maintain an identical RPM around their Center. That is the really important thing.

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Uppndownn 07-17-2007 07:44 AM

Link problem
 
Could not get the link to work for me at first
Thank you for your help, Powerdraw

UPP in cloudy Ohio

powerdraw 07-17-2007 08:13 AM

just click on the bottom message of the error opening file and it will go directly towards the pics

spike 07-17-2007 08:05 PM

Thank you, Yoda.

My thinking now is that maybe I have been insisting too much that my juniors master the flat left wrist in putting.

As a coach, I don't really like seeing the putter come up through impact. This seems to be the reaction of a bent left wrist.

Am I being too closed minded?

Yoda 07-17-2007 10:56 PM

Down So Low...There's No Way But Up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spike (Post 44103)

As a coach, I don't really like seeing the putter come up through impact. This seems to be the reaction of a bent left wrist.

Right you are, Spike.

In uncompensated Golf Stroke Geometry, the Left Shoulder serves as the Center of the Left Arm Swing (and, given the Flat Left Wrist, the Clubhead Arc). Therefore, the Low Point of the Stroke occurs directly opposite the Shoulder (when the Radius of the Stroke -- the Left Arm and Club -- points directly to the ground).

Alternatively, the Bending Left Wrist can replace the Left Shoulder as the Center of the Clubhead Arc. And when the Wrist Bend happens through Impact, the Clubhead has no choice but to come up.

spike 07-20-2007 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 44122)
Right you are, Spike.

In uncompensated Golf Stroke Geometry, the Left Shoulder serves as the Center of the Left Arm Swing (and, given the Flat Left Wrist, the Clubhead Arc). Therefore, the Low Point of the Stroke occurs directly opposite the Shoulder (when the Radius of the Stroke -- the Left Arm and Club -- points directly to the ground).

Alternatively, the Bending Left Wrist can replace the Left Shoulder as the Center of the Clubhead Arc. And when the Wrist Bend happens through Impact, the Clubhead has no choice but to come up.

Thank you, Yoda

In the alternative, would the power still be going through the ball or more of a glancing hit on the ball?


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