Quiting Problems

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I have been practicing the Basic Motion (so far as I understand it). I find that, when I concentrate on getting my hands forward at impact, my body seems to get rigid and quits moving. Consequently, my body gets in the way of my swinging arms forcing them out and/or stopping them so that I stub the ground behind the ball. What can you recommend that I start thinking of to get my body not to get in the way of my arms? I have started trying to monitor PP#3 (again I think I have that right), and that seems to help because I can keep the feeling of pressure through impact with my right wrist staying bend if I move my body properly. Is that the right way to go about it? Monitoring PP#3? Thanks for you help.

[6bmike]

Basic Motion is two feet in each direction- no pivot no shoulder turn and no acc#3. Simple back and forth on an incline plane. This is the first step to build on. Boring as 4ell, but you need to feel the hands move on the plane because this is where impact is. Acquired Motion is still no pivot but does have a shoulder turn and the the right forearm is level in both directions with some acc#3. A great pitch and chip motion btw.

Learn to Educate the Hands without any independent pivot motion. The Hands will teach the body how to turn later.

Monitoring PP3 is always a good thing. Building the Flying Wedges is even better with these two motions. Soon it will all come together. Basic and Acquired Motions are GEOMETRY and PPs are power- physics. I believe you need to learn the geometry first with these two Motions- add physics next. But don't stop feeling pp3 ever.

Basic Motion- 2 feet in both directions- feel how the right arm folds and unfolds inside TWO FEET. No pivot.

Acquired Motion- Shoulder turn with level to level right forearm- NO GREATER and No PIVOT.

[SECGolf]

I have been practicing the Basic Motion (so far as I understand it). I find that, when I concentrate on getting my hands forward at impact, my body seems to get rigid and quits moving. Consequently, my body gets in the way of my swinging arms forcing them out and/or stopping them so that I stub the ground behind the ball. What can you recommend that I start thinking of to get my body not to get in the way of my arms? I have started trying to monitor PP#3 (again I think I have that right), and that seems to help because I can keep the feeling of pressure through impact with my right wrist staying bend if I move my body properly. Is that the right way to go about it? Monitoring PP#3? Thanks for you help.

My opinion for your consideration:

What is happening now:
You are very eager to get those hands ahead of the clubhead at impact (primary focus and this thinking needs to change). As a result, you are neglecting clubhead direction control. Your eagerness (and no control) is allowing the clubhead to travel on an outside to in (with impact along the way) path (yes even in basic motion). If you are in true basic motion, this could be the result of the eagerness to get the hands ahead of the clubhead by itself, or if you are going beyond basic motion the right hip will not clear if the hands even start an outside in journey - then it becomes impossible to to anything but outside in as the right hip is in the way.

With no manual clubFACE manipulation, the start of an outside to in path will let your mind know that you will pull the ball. As a rational, thinking person, you don't want this to happen, so you quit, resulting in the stub behind the ball. The quit could also be forced by a right hip that is in the way of zone #2 motion (if not in basic motion).

Solution:
Do not focus primarily on the body.
Focus primarily on establishing, producing, and maintaining clubhead lag pressure (which is NOT hands ahead of the clubhead). Clubhead lag technique is sensing the change of the clubhead with the hands (most likely through PP #3). Tell your mind you need to sense this all the way to the end of basic motion. Tell your mind you don't want to lose the feel. What produces clubhead change? Hands that are driven. Acceleration. If you have this awareness all sorts of wonderful things will happen.

Hands will be ahead of the clubhead - as if they are not, clubhead feel will have been lost.

You will be able to control clubhead direction through the hands.
Now that you are able to control clubhead direction - where to direct it via the hands? Keep # 3 pressure point pointing at a straight plane line. This will dictate that the clubhead move on an inside to out path until low point.
The hands will have no desire or will not be forced to quit. The body will respond in a necessary fashion to keep the feel of clubhead lag pressure in the hands.

This is not endless trial and error of striving to maintain clubhead lag pressure. You already have a huge head start. Through study of TGM - you already KNOW how the body is supposed to respond (independent of hands). You already KNOW the correct direction of the hands. By all means, keep these items in mind (huge confidence that you already KNOW what is right).
Primary focus on the hands. Definitely feel the body motion.

Checks:
Put the ball well back of lowpoint (~left shoulder). Apply basic motion with heavy pressure of driven hands. Examine divot. Should extend to low point.
At a glance from above, it's general direction should mostly be to the right. This does not mean that the clubface does not continue closing after impact (before lowpoint).
The whole clubhead is resposible for the divot going right. Inside the divot itself, the closing of the club face would produce a "left like scoop". Can you see this? Myself I don't look for it - just gereral direction - right.

Check to see that the right wrist remains bent after motion is correct. Maintaining clubhead lag pressure gives the right wrist no desire to flatten.

Indoor practice:
Read 4-D-0 Do the "low bench, straight edge drill" while seeing that you maintained a bent right wrist.

[12 piece bucket]

Basic Motion is two feet in each direction- no pivot no shoulder turn and no acc#3. Simple back and forth on an incline plane. This is the first step to build on. Boring as 4ell, but you need to feel the hands move on the plane because this is where impact is. Acquired Motion is still no pivot but does have a shoulder turn and the the right forearm is level in both directions with some acc#3. A great pitch and chip motion btw.

Learn to Educate the Hands without any independent pivot motion. The Hands will teach the body how to turn later.

Monitoring PP3 is always a good thing. Building the Flying Wedges is even better with these two motions. Soon it will all come together. Basic and Acquired Motions are GEOMETRY and PPs are power- physics. I believe you need to learn the geometry first with these two Motions- add physics next. But don't stop feeling pp3 ever.

Basic Motion- 2 feet in both directions- feel how the right arm folds and unfolds inside TWO FEET. No pivot.

Acquired Motion- Shoulder turn with level to level right forearm- NO GREATER and No PIVOT.

Yes . . . and the MAIN THING WITH REGARDS TO BASIC MOTION is . . . BACK AND FORTH . . . .it is a MOVEMENT THROUGH THE BALL. You are learning to feel and understand that IMPACT DOES NOT ACHIEVE THE RANK OF A STATION. Swing through the ball . . . No hackin'. No steerin'. No quittin'. Make a motion . . . don't make a shot. Back up and in . . . down and out on plane until low point. Swinging back and forth back and forth.

[SwingNorthtoSouth]

GREAT POST SEC GOLF

In educating my hands in addition to the PP#3, I will warm up with hitting, or swinging with angle hinge and focus on getting the crease of my right hand on the ball.

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Thanks for your replies, fellows. I am slowly learning what I am supposed to be doing.

RP